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JLB I am not disavowing you had a vision however what I hear is something that does not match what Habakkuk was talking about.
Habakkuk 2
4 Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith.
5 Yea also, because he transgresseth by wine, he is a proud man, neither keepeth at home, who enlargeth his desire as hell, and is as death, and cannot be satisfied, but gathereth unto him all nations, and heapeth unto him all people:
6 Shall not all these take up a parable against him, and a taunting proverb against him, and say, Woe to him that increaseth that which is not his! how long? and to him that ladeth himself with thick clay!

Verse 4 is talking about who is going to receive the vision. and verse 5 says more about who it is then in verse 6 talks about those who think that person should have not received such a vision which they will get angry and start accusations.

The question I have for you is how long did it take you to research that vision you had to define it according to what it was trying to say? and does the 5th verse apply to your character or nature.
 
Free, it sounds like you have picked scripture and defined it in order to get people to not question what you know. When clearly we are told to test the spirits. Is it offensive to your integrity or pride for someone to ask you questions because you tell them you know God yet you want them to take your word for it even if they don't know you.

1John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. (KJV)
 
Yes, I agree, but even from that time forth it has always been Babylon (mystery Babylon Rev 13-19) that God uses as His rod of judgment against Judah (all the unrighteous who refuse to repent). Starting with Babylonian captivity of Judah that Habakkuk was shown in his vision and to write it down as a warning to those to run from it God also gave Daniel a future vision in great detail, Daniel 7, but in Daniel 12 was told to shut up the words and seal the book even to the time of the end for many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. The knowledge that has increased is that of who mystery Babylon is in being the revived Roman Empire that stemmed out of the Babylonian Empire. Just like Babylon in the days of Habakkuk and Daniel God will continue to use this revived Roman Empire as His rod of judgment against those who refuse to repent until the last day when Christ returns and makes an end to all abominations that have caused desolation or in other words will make an end of sin reigning here on earth.

And it was Babylon that used Hitler to persecute the Jews during WWII...
 
And it was Babylon that used Hitler to persecute the Jews during WWII...
Oh mystery Babylon how beautiful you display yourself with fine ornaments and riches of your merchandise, but you will be exposed and destroyed and all the host of heaven will rejoice at your demise.
 
Free said:
Habakkuk was prophesying about the coming Babylonian invasion(s), so clearly he was writing about a future time for him, not for us. The whole point of the prophecy is God's coming judgement against Judah. Note that this was something God was doing in his day (1:5), something happening soon. And it then speaks of the destruction of the Babylonians, which also happened long ago.
Yes, I agree,
What do you agree with? You previously stated:

Habakkuk was told to write the vision down "For the vision is yet for an appointed time". An appointed time is future, not the pass as what Habakkuk was told to write was way after the Babylonian invasion.

Which is what I was responding to. Your previous post disagrees what my response, yet you say you agree. Which is it? You can't both agree and disagree.

But what? If you agree, then there is nothing more to add to the revelation in Habakkuk, which is what we are discussing.
 
Free, it sounds like you have picked scripture and defined it in order to get people to not question what you know.
What do you mean by "picked Scripture and defined it"? Why would you think I am trying to get people to not question what I know?

When clearly we are told to test the spirits. Is it offensive to your integrity or pride for someone to ask you questions because you tell them you know God yet you want them to take your word for it even if they don't know you.
Why would you think it is offensive to my integrity or pride for someone to ask me questions? What does people not knowing me have to do with anything?

This is about what the Bible says and what it doesn't say. We know from the Bible and from history that the prophecy in Habakkuk was referring to a specific time which has passed. We know that this prophecy has been fulfilled. This isn't a matter of taking my word for it. This information is not only made clear in Scripture, there are numerous commentaries and such which one can learn from.
 
As I beheld the sight before me, people stood up all over the world! They were lifting their hands and they were praising the Lord. At that very moment there came a great thunder that seemed to roar from the heavens. I turned my eyes toward the heavens and suddenly I saw a figure in white, in glistening white - the most glorious thing that I have ever seen in my entire life. I did not see the face, but somehow I knew it was the Lord Jesus Christ, and he stretched forth his hand, and as he did, he would stretch it forth to one, and to another, and to another. And as he stretched forth his hand upon the nations and the people of the world - men and women - as he pointed toward them, this liquid light seemed to flow from his hands into them, and a mighty anointing of God came upon them, and those people began to go forth in the name of the Lord. I do not know how long I watched it. It seemed it went into days and weeks and months. And I beheld this Christ as he continued to stretch forth his hand; but there was a tragedy. There were many people as he stretched forth his hand that refused the anointing of God and the call of God. I saw men and women that I knew. People that I felt would certainly receive the call of God. But as he stretched forth his hand toward this one and toward that one, they simply bowed their head and began to back away. And each of those that seemed to bow down and back away, seemed to go into darkness. Blackness seemed to swallow them everywhere. I was bewildered as I watched it, but these people that he had anointed, hundreds of thousands of people all over the world, in Africa, England, Russia, China, America, all over the world, the anointing of God was upon these people as they went forward in the name of the Lord. I saw these men and women as they went forth. They were ditch diggers, they were washerwomen, they were rich men, they were poor men. I saw people who were bound with paralysis and sickness and blindness and deafness. As the Lord stretched forth to give them this anointing, they became well, they became healed, and they went forth! And this is the miracle of it - this is the glorious miracle of it - those people would stretch forth their hands exactly as the Lord did, and it seemed as if there was this same liquid fire in their hands. As they stretched forth their hands they said, "According to my word, be thou made whole." As these people continued in this mighty end-time ministry, I did not fully realize what it was, and I looked to the Lord and said, "What is the meaning of this?" And he said, "This is that which I will do in the last days. I will restore all that the cankerworm, the palmerworm, the caterpiller - I will restore all that they have destroyed. This, my people, in the end times will go forth. As a mighty army shall they sweep over the face of the earth." As I was at this great height, I could behold the whole world. I watched these people as they were going to and fro over the face of the earth. Suddenly there was a man in Africa and in a moment he was transported by the Spirit of God, and perhaps he was in Russia, or China or America or some other place, and vice versa. All over the world these people went, and they came through fire, and through pestilence, and through famine. Neither fire nor persecution, nothing seemed to stop them. Angry mobs came to them with swords and with guns. And like Jesus, they passed through the multitudes and they could not find them, but they went forth in the name of the Lord, and everywhere they stretched forth their hands, the sick were healed, the blind eyes were opened. There was not a long prayer, and after I had reviewed the vision many times in my mind, and I thought about it many times, I realised that I never saw a church, and I never saw or heard a denomination, but these people were going in the name of the Lord of Hosts. Hallelujah! As they marched forth in everything they did as the ministry of Christ in the end times, these people were ministering to the multitudes over the face of the earth. Tens of thousands, even millions seemed to come to the Lord Jesus Christ as these people stood forth and gave the message of the kingdom, of the coming kingdom, in this last hour. It was so glorious, but it seems as though there were those that rebelled, and they would become angry and they tried to attack those workers that were giving the message. God is going to give the world a demonstration in this last hour as the world has never known. These men and women are of all walks of life, degrees will mean nothing. I saw these workers as they were going over the face of the earth. When one would stumble and fall, another would come and pick him up. There were no "big I" and "little you," but every mountain was brought low and every valley was exalted, and they seemed to have one thing in common - there was a divine love, a divine love that seemed to flow forth from these people as they worked together, and as they lived together. It was the most glorious sight that I have ever known. Jesus Christ was the theme of their life. They continued and it seemed the days went by as I stood and beheld this sight. I could only cry, and sometimes I laughed. It was so wonderful as these people went throughout the face of the whole earth, bringing forth in this last end time. As I watched from the very heaven itself, there were times when great deluges of this liquid light seemed to fall upon great congregations, and that congregation would lift up their hands and seemingly praise God for hours and even days as the Spirit of God came upon them. God said, "I will pour my Spirit upon all flesh," and that is exactly this thing. And to every man and every woman that received this power, and the anointing of God, the miracles of God, there was no ending to it. We have talked about miracles. We have talked about signs and wonders, but I could not help but weep as I read again this morning, at 4 o'clock this morning the letter from our native workers. This is only the evidence of the beginning for one man, a "do-nothing, an unheard-of," who would go and stretch forth his hand and say, "In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, I command life to flow into your body." I dropped to my knees and began to pray again, and I said, "Lord, I know that this time is coming soon!" And then again, as these people were going about the face of the earth, a great persecution seemed to come from every angle. Suddenly there was another great clap of thunder, that seemed to resound around the world, and I heard again the voice, the voice that seemed to speak, "Now this is my people. This is my beloved bride." And when the voice spoke, I looked upon the earth and I could see the lakes and the mountains. The graves were opened and people from all over the world, the saints of all ages, seemed to be rising. And as they rose from the grave, suddenly all these people came from every direction. From the east and the west, from the north and the south, and they seemed to be forming again this gigantic body. As the dead in Christ seemed to be rising first, I could hardly comprehend it. It was so marvellous. It was so far beyond anything I could ever dream or think of. But as this body suddenly began to form, and take shape again, it took shape again in the form of this mighty giant, but this time it was different. It was arrayed in the most beautiful gorgeous white. Its garments were without spot or wrinkle as its body began to form, and the people of all ages seemed to be gathered into this body, and slowly, slowly, as it began to form up into the very heavens, suddenly from the heavens above, the Lord Jesus came, and became the head, and I heard another clap of thunder that said, "This is my beloved bride for whom I have waited. She will come forth even tried by fire. This is she that I have loved from the beginning of time." As I watched, my eyes suddenly turned to the far north, and I saw seemingly destruction: men and women in anguish and crying out, and buildings in destruction. Then I heard again, the fourth voice that said, "Now is My wrath being poured out upon the face of the earth." From the ends of the whole world, the wrath of God seemed to be poured out and it seemed that there were great vials of God's wrath being poured out upon the face of the earth. I can remember it as though it happened a moment ago. I shook and trembled as I beheld the awful sight of seeing the cities, and whole nations going down into destruction. I could hear the weeping and wailing. I could hear people crying. They seemed to cry as they went into caves, but the caves in the mountains opened up. They leaped into water, but the water would not drown them. There was nothing that could destroy them. They were wanting to take their lives, but they could not. Then again I turned my eyes to this glorious sight, this body arrayed in beautiful white, shining garments. Slowly, slowly, it began to lift from the earth, and as it did, I awoke. What a sight I had beheld! I had seen the end-time ministries - the last hour. Again on July 27, at 2:30 in the morning, the same revelation, the same vision came again exactly as it did before. My life has been changed as I realised that we are living in that end time, for all over the world God is anointing men and women with this ministry. It will not be doctrine. It will not be a churchianity. It is going to be Jesus Christ. They will give forth the word of the Lord, and are going to say, "I heard it so many times in the vision and according to my word it shall be done.



JLB
WOW and praise the name of Jesus!!! .............Such a detailed vision of God's warning as He calls all to repent as His longsuffering and patience is about to run out and God would that none should perish.
 
What do you agree with? You previously stated:



Which is what I was responding to. Your previous post disagrees what my response, yet you say you agree. Which is it? You can't both agree and disagree.


But what? If you agree, then there is nothing more to add to the revelation in Habakkuk, which is what we are discussing.
I agree that the vision Habakkuk was told to write down was the Babylonian captivity in his day and yet prophetic of mystery Babylon captivity in the end of days. I guess it wasn't clear in what I said in post #35.
 
What do you mean by "picked Scripture and defined it"? Why would you think I am trying to get people to not question what I know?


Why would you think it is offensive to my integrity or pride for someone to ask me questions? What does people not knowing me have to do with anything?

This is about what the Bible says and what it doesn't say. We know from the Bible and from history that the prophecy in Habakkuk was referring to a specific time which has passed. We know that this prophecy has been fulfilled. This isn't a matter of taking my word for it. This information is not only made clear in Scripture, there are numerous commentaries and such which one can learn from.
Gods word is the final authority on everything He has spoken, but it is up to us to rightly divide the word of God through that of the Holy Spirit, not mans commentaries as we are taught to trust no other gospel that sets itself a part from the Holy Spirit.
 
I agree that the vision Habakkuk was told to write down was the Babylonian captivity in his day and yet prophetic of mystery Babylon captivity in the end of days. I guess it wasn't clear in what I said in post #35.
I still don't understand why you say you agree since you clearly disagreed before that. And, no, it is not prophetic of the end of days. It is a prophecy that has been fulfilled and that is all there is to it. Do not add to Scripture.
 
Gods word is the final authority on everything He has spoken, but it is up to us to rightly divide the word of God through that of the Holy Spirit, not mans commentaries as we are taught to trust no other gospel that sets itself a part from the Holy Spirit.
Of course God's Word is the final authority, that has nothing to do with using commentaries. And commentaries are not another gospel. Not only does that mean you don't understand what commentaries are, it means you don't know what the gospel is.

The biblical way is to not only study on our own, but we are also to listen to pastors and teachers, which includes theologians, commentaries, lexicons, etc. We always seek the Holy Spirit in learning from all sources but we don't ultimately rely just on our interpretation. That simply is not biblical.
 
I still don't understand why you say you agree since you clearly disagreed before that. And, no, it is not prophetic of the end of days. It is a prophecy that has been fulfilled and that is all there is to it. Do not add to Scripture.
Ever hear of history repeating itself!!!.............do the ancestry lineage throughout the ages and you will see that of the abomination that causes desolation that has always persecuted those of faith in God.
 
JLB I am not disavowing you had a vision however what I hear is something that does not match what Habakkuk was talking about.
Habakkuk 2
4 Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith.
5 Yea also, because he transgresseth by wine, he is a proud man, neither keepeth at home, who enlargeth his desire as hell, and is as death, and cannot be satisfied, but gathereth unto him all nations, and heapeth unto him all people:
6 Shall not all these take up a parable against him, and a taunting proverb against him, and say, Woe to him that increaseth that which is not his! how long? and to him that ladeth himself with thick clay!

Verse 4 is talking about who is going to receive the vision. and verse 5 says more about who it is then in verse 6 talks about those who think that person should have not received such a vision which they will get angry and start accusations.

The question I have for you is how long did it take you to research that vision you had to define it according to what it was trying to say? and does the 5th verse apply to your character or nature.


Brother, that was not my vision, but from Brother Tommy Hicks, in 1961, during the time of the Argentine Revival.


The following is a stunning vision given to American preacher Tommy Hicks (who was a major figure in the powerful 1954 Argentina Revival). VISION OF THE BODY OF CHRIST AND THE END-TIME MINISTRIES My message begins July 25, about 2:30 in the morning at Winnipeg, Canada. I had hardly fallen asleep when the vision and the revelation that God gave me came before me. The vision came three times, exactly in detail, the morning of July 25, 1961.


JLB
 
Of course God's Word is the final authority, that has nothing to do with using commentaries. And commentaries are not another gospel. Not only does that mean you don't understand what commentaries are, it means you don't know what the gospel is.

The biblical way is to not only study on our own, but we are also to listen to pastors and teachers, which includes theologians, commentaries, lexicons, etc. We always seek the Holy Spirit in learning from all sources but we don't ultimately rely just on our interpretation. That simply is not biblical.

Are we to abide in what man teaches for their are many antichrist behind the pulpits that lip the words I believe in Christ, but in their heart is a deceiving Jezebel spirit that can deceive even the very elect if possible, or are we to try the spirits that speak in order to separate truth from error for we are told in scripture to abide in Him, being the Holy Spirit that anoints us to teach. Apart from the Holy Spirit man can teach us nothing.

1John 4:
1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. 5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. 6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

1John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
 
JLB I am not disavowing you had a vision however what I hear is something that does not match what Habakkuk was talking about.

Here is your OP.

Is anybody aware of a vision that is to come at the end?


No mention of "matching Habakkuk" in it.


I will be glad to delete it, if you like, since this is your thread.



JLB
 
This prophecy in Habakkuk has passed; it is definitely not referring to any future event. Habakkuk wrote this prior to the Babylonian invasions of Judah.
You are seeing "the vision" as merely historic in time. Paul took the teaching of justification by faith, partly from the second chapter of Habakkuk, so I'd hardly call it past and done.

4 Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith.

The "vision" has NOT been fulfilled yet.

14 For the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.
 
Are we to abide in what man teaches for their are many antichrist behind the pulpits that lip the words I believe in Christ, but in their heart is a deceiving Jezebel spirit that can deceive even the very elect if possible, or are we to try the spirits that speak in order to separate truth from error for we are told in scripture to abide in Him, being the Holy Spirit that anoints us to teach. Apart from the Holy Spirit man can teach us nothing.

1John 4:
1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. 5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. 6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

1John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
It seems that you really don't understand the biblical model of teaching. You are here misunderstanding and misusing 1John 1:27. Indeed, John would be contradicting himself if he meant that all a believer needs is the Holy Spirit to teach them, since he is teaching. It would also contradict many other statements made throughout the NT. So clearly John is not stating that all we need is the Holy Spirit to teach us and that he will teach us everything. Rather, as this letter is likely dealing with Gnosticism that was infiltrating the church, John is saying that the Holy Spirit will teach them everything regarding the gospel, everything regarding the verses above verse 27.

That there are those who deceive and teach false things in no way whatsoever means that we are not to listen to what Christian teachers have to say, whether it's from the pulpit or from a book. To say otherwise is to go against God's Word.
 
You are seeing "the vision" as merely historic in time. Paul took the teaching of justification by faith, partly from the second chapter of Habakkuk, so I'd hardly call it past and done.

4 Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith.

The "vision" has NOT been fulfilled yet.

14 For the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.
Okay, sure, I'll grant that for verse 14, although it has a past application as well. It could be said that with the destruction of Babylon would be known throughout the known world, as they were the most powerful nation and it surely would have become known everywhere. It could also be said of the spread of the gospel--future to Habakkuk, past and present for us.

However, on the whole, the vision is about God using Babylon in judgement against Judah and then Babylon's destruction. And that has all happened.
 
It seems that you really don't understand the biblical model of teaching. You are here misunderstanding and misusing 1John 1:27. Indeed, John would be contradicting himself if he meant that all a believer needs is the Holy Spirit to teach them, since he is teaching. It would also contradict many other statements made throughout the NT. So clearly John is not stating that all we need is the Holy Spirit to teach us and that he will teach us everything. Rather, as this letter is likely dealing with Gnosticism that was infiltrating the church, John is saying that the Holy Spirit will teach them everything regarding the gospel, everything regarding the verses above verse 27.

That there are those who deceive and teach false things in no way whatsoever means that we are not to listen to what Christian teachers have to say, whether it's from the pulpit or from a book. To say otherwise is to go against God's Word.

There is no 1John 1:27 so how can you credit yourself with something that is not written in scripture.
None the less, what you are missing is that we are to try the spirits that speak as there are only two as one is error and the other truth, John 4:1-6. We are to use discernment through the Holy Spirit to know that of Gods anointed ones who are given the gifts from the Holy Spirit to teach the word of God. Again, are all anointed to Pastor or teach, no, as they walk according to their own will being disobedient to Gods will.
 
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