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Seems like there is some division on this board that hasn't been explored regarding how many Gospels there are.
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Yeah, right! :oGeorges said:In my humble opinion....
One Gospel, Two versions...
The Gospel as preached by the Church at Jerusalem....and The Gospel as preached by Paul.
The Gospel as preached by the Torah observant Apostles (Church at Jerusalem).....and The Gospel as preached by Paul....Although there may be 2 Pauls....the Paul of Acts (who appears to be Torah observant) and the Paul of the Letters (who appears to preach against Torah observance).
Solo said:There are many gospels, but one true gospel that Paul and Peter preached, the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Solo said:Yeah, right! :oGeorges said:In my humble opinion....
One Gospel, Two versions...
The Gospel as preached by the Church at Jerusalem....and The Gospel as preached by Paul.
The Gospel as preached by the Torah observant Apostles (Church at Jerusalem).....and The Gospel as preached by Paul....Although there may be 2 Pauls....the Paul of Acts (who appears to be Torah observant) and the Paul of the Letters (who appears to preach against Torah observance).
Something we finally agree on.....wow! That's a first...
TruthMiner said:I was wondering what these verses indicate.
Romans 2:16 on the day when, according to my gospel, God will judge the secrets of men through Christ Jesus.
Romans 16:25 Now to Him who is able to establish you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery which has been kept secret for long ages past,
2 Timothy 2:8 Remember Jesus Christ, risen from the dead, descendant of David, according to my gospel,
AVBunyan said:Two - one past (peter) and one present (Paul)
1. Past - Peter preached what was revealed to him in early Acts which was basically Christ's kingomd age message in the Gospels (Acts 2:38; 3:19-22) - the gospel of the kingdom and was primarily to the circumcism while God was still dealing with Israel as a nation.
As God moved away from Israel because of thier hardened hearts then Peter replaced by Paul to go to the Gentiles.
Ah...replacement theology :x ....the downfall of modern Christianity....
2. Present - Paul preached the gospel of God's grace It was Paul's gospel: Rom. 2:16; Rom. 16:25; II Tim. 2:8 -
Paul got his message directly from Christ himself:
Or so he says.....Any witnesses?....Funny how Paul got that vision in a Gnostic style and the rest of the Apostles didn't recieve the same message....let's see Paul or the 12......hmmmmm, I'll go with the 12....
Gal 1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
Gal 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
These verses are consistent with Gnosticism.....I Just noticed something....the verse says that Paul recieved it "not" from a man, but from Christ......Was Christ not a man? I perosnally think he was....Paul apparently thinks not? You know Gnostics didn't think that Christ was a man either....or so I had read.
This is the gospel for sinners today -
1 Cor 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
1 Cor 15:2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
1 Cor 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1 Cor 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
If you preach any otoher gospel today other than Paul's (I Cor. 15:1-5) then you are accursed:
Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Consistant with Gnosticism....the mystery knowledge revealed only to Paul...
Yep, Gentile Christians who didn't know any better were scared into believing him....
God bless
Soma-Sight said:Paul never met Christ!
He had a MYSTIC vision like any Gnostic claims to have!
He Paul's revelations came in a Gnostice fashion!