th1b.taylor
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And the answer will throughout the limited span of time, the same By Faith! Without faith, all goo to Hell, no matter how good they are by man's standard!This all still begs the question of how does one rely on Scripture.
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And the answer will throughout the limited span of time, the same By Faith! Without faith, all goo to Hell, no matter how good they are by man's standard!This all still begs the question of how does one rely on Scripture.
And snap! And you just closed the lid on the box containing your god in a box.Yeah, the only one I would really consider allegory would be Genesis 2-3. The rest doesn't really follow allegorical patterns, though I would still say that reading it as history in the modern sense is anachronistic.
But simply saying it is invalid, or not agreeing that it is valid, does not make it so either. It was all written in extremely different theological, historical, and social contexts, which makes his point valid and it needs to be addressed.STOP. You've made this point, and it was not agreed on as valid. Repeating it will not valudate it. It will not strengthen it. It will bot help.
But that is begging the question--it presumes that what one believes is actually the truth."The first step in destroying a persons belief in the truth is to make one question it"
-Nathan
Gen 3:1
Now the serpent was more crafty than any other beast of the field that the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God actually say, ‘You shall not eat of any tree in the garden’?”
Not agreed?STOP. You've made this point, and it was not agreed on as valid.
ANd wouldn't it be swell if those who accuse me of not believing God would actually explore and consider what I've posted.You've stated your position and it's worth exploring and considering.
Fair enough - but that is the deception.But that is begging the question--it presumes that what one believes is actually the truth.
Did someone actually say that Satan is not a reality?Satan ,not real.funny what was Jesus talking too during his tests?
But Jim, Jesus said that if they would not hear, to kick the dust of that place off of yor feet and go to te next location.ANd wouldn't it be swell if those who accuse me of not believing God would actually explore and consider what I've posted.
I repeat it because it appears that no one wants to hear.
It is natural for any man to want to better themselves and that is found as the measurement used for success in most American Churches of the day, but it is a false measurement.
So are you saying I should shut up now?Good advice Not_Now.Soon . We get it Jim Parker . You've stated your position and it's worth exploring and considering. But others see it differently including experts in the field of biblical studies. There will always be differences in our understanding. In the meantime, let's have fun and share our thoughts with grace as we are called to do.
Ephesians 4:1-3 (NIV)So are you saying I should shut up now?
Unlike those who start thread after thread proclaiming the OSAS doctrine, I shouldn't attempt to explain and share what I gleaned from seven years of seminary because it's not gracious to do so?
I am a bit put off by your comment, Mr. Moderator.
Well. I did ask.But you lack humility and show little grace. You could start there.
and humble - and even when not attackedWell. I did ask.
And you were very frank.
I'll try to be more gracious when attacked by my brothers.
Maybe everyone could try that too. (Some do. yes)and humble - and even when not attacked
Fine. Then I will highlight where in your posts you fall short and stray from simply and concisely stating facts, and arrogantly snapping at others.Maybe everyone could try that too. (Some do. yes)
And, JTLYK, stating a fact as concisely as possible is not a lack of humility it is the quest for clarity.
Are you going to do that for everyone?Fine. Then I will highlight where in your posts you fall short and stray from simply and concisely stating facts, and arrogantly snapping at others.