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He must be part of that new eastern Wyoming Catholic movement.
Not all Catholics believe that Baptism imparts salvation. I am a Catholic and I do not believe that Baptism imparts salvation. And thus it is false to state that all Catholics believe that Baptism imparts salvation.
The reason why I state naturally that I do not believe that Baptism imparts salvation is because when I prayed to Jesus to become my Personal Savior I started being guided by the Holy Spirit to recognize that Baptism does not impart salvation and that salvation comes only through receiving Jesus as ones Personal Savior by asking Him to become ones Personal Savior. And the fact that I became Born Again at my brother's Non Denominational Church does not make me a Protestant because I do not attend and belong to any Protestant Church. I consider myself a Catholic because I was Baptized Catholic and I attend and belong to the Catholic Church.
No I am not. I reside in the Upper Middle West.He must be part of that new eastern Wyoming Catholic movement.
"Not all Christians believe Jesus is the Messiah. I attend a Christian Church but I do not believe Jesus is the Messiah. I prayed to Allah and he enlightened me to the truth in this matter."
Nobody could be a Christian if they reject the doctrine that Jesus is the Messiah.
The hypothetical person is neither Christian or Muslim because they deny that Jesus is the Messiah and they do not attend a Mosque.
Yes I attend the Catholic Church every week unless I am sick. My experience in the Catholic Church that I attend is that I do not subscribe to all Catholic doctrines.
I am guided by the Holy Spirit to still believe in the Communion Of Saints meaning that I believe that there are Saints in Heaven but I do not believe that the Saints have the ability to hear anybody's prayers. I still believe in the priesthood but I do not believe that priests conduct sacrifices. I believe that priests are just here to conduct the Mass. I accept the Lutheran doctrine of Holy Communion. I am being guided by the Holy Spirit to reject and repudiate the doctrines of the Sinlessness of the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary, the doctrine of Transubstantiation, Justification By Faith through love, Faith is Scripture, Tradition and Magisterium, prayers for the dead and Purgatory.
Infant Baptism is the same as Infant Dedication since Infant Baptism is just a dedication of infants to Jesus just as Adult Baptism is just a dedication of adults to Jesus. I came up with the belief that Baptism is just a dedication of infants and adults to Jesus so that I could retain the belief in Infant Baptism.
"dadof10 said:
OK, good. Then in your opinion a person's religious identity is defined by the doctrines they hold, not simply the church they attend. I know you may be saying "well...Duh!" but from your previous posts it's hard to tell.
The Catholic Church, which you profess to belong to, disagrees with you. The Church claims SHE is guided by the Holy Spirit in matters of faith and morals, not individuals. Certainly, the Holy Spirit can and does guide people in personal matters, but NOT in doctrinal matters. Our role in these matters is to SUBMIT to HER authority as we would to Paul, James or Jesus Himself. This is how WE CATHOLICS think.
That's two.
Three...
Four through ten. You are batting .1000!!! In fact, because you "reject AND REPUDIATE" the last seven, they should count double.
Managers in the company I work for have a saying. "We don't fire people, they fire themselves because of the choices they make." When employees repeatedly break company policy after numerous chances, eventually they CHOOSE to no longer be part of our company. This is the same concept with the doctrine of excommunication. When you repeatedly reject Catholic dogma in favor of your own personal novelties, you are excommunicating your self. This is also the same concept used to explain how a good God can SEND someone to Hell.
Jesus doesn't impose excommunication, the Church RECOGNIZES that a person, due to their own choices, has cut themselves off from the Body of Christ. For the fourth time, I can show you where this doctrine is taught from the Catechism. Will it make a difference?
As with the rest of this post, spoken like a true Protestant. You can call yourself anything you want, but your beliefs show you are no more Catholic than Jack Chick.
