is false teaching gaining strength and needs a label for those that believe scriptures?
It is called Preterism.
JLB
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is false teaching gaining strength and needs a label for those that believe scriptures?
Jesus is Messiah the Prince who is to come of Daniel...
[MENTION=94590]Rev33[/MENTION] do you believe Jesus is returning for His Church/bride/people ?
Jesus is Messiah the Prince who is to come of Daniel...
Then you are labeling Him "the abomination of desolation" of Daniel 9:27.JLB
10 The Lord has made bare His holy arm In the eyes of all the nations; And all the ends of the earth shall see The salvation of our God. Isaiah 52:10
Had the Lord become a flesh and blood Man when this prophecy was given?
JLB
The Text is Clear. Gods ARM was made visible to EVERY EYE.
Do you disagree?
I disagree.
The Lord was a Spirit at that time.
Since then He became flesh and has a glorified natural body that can eat, yet walk through walls. That can been seen by Humans.
JLB
There's such freedom in full preterism. The entire bible is allegorical and we can sort it all out to what makes us comfortable. What in the world ever happened to comprehension? I'll stick to my futurism thanks. I don't need to go outside to see Him, He'll come for me. ;)
I pray to the Lord to not be deceived, and I'm not deceived today. Praise the Lord!
How did i end up in this forum Preterism is another one of those doctrines of D _ _ _ _ S another sign of the times those last day signs. Devil never stops trying to destroy a persons hope does he.
tob
Since then He became flesh and has a glorified natural body that can eat, yet walk through walls. That can been seen by Humans.
Taking Rev 12 and saying that has come to past and rev 1-3 saying it has come to past is not partial preterism.
Jesus is Messiah the Prince who is to come of Daniel...
Then you are labeling Him "the abomination of desolation" of Daniel 9:27.JLB
Nope... The text is clear... The one who confirms the covenant (which was Jesus) is not the same person as "the one who makes desolate"
Two completely different individuals.
Nice try though.
For a partial preterist to say someone is a futurist then they would have to believe a futurist does not believe Jesus died on the cross yet as a partial preterist believes Jesus already came and the 6th seal is past.
For a partial preterist to say someone is a futurist then they would have to believe a futurist does not believe Jesus died on the cross yet as a partial preterist believes Jesus already came and the 6th seal is past.
Is futurism dying? that is not the question, the question is, is false teaching gaining strength and needs a label for those that believe scriptures?
10 The Lord has made bare His holy arm In the eyes of all the nations; And all the ends of the earth shall see The salvation of our God. Isaiah 52:10
Had the Lord become a flesh and blood Man when this prophecy was given?
JLB
The Text is Clear. Gods ARM was made visible to EVERY EYE.
Do you disagree?
I disagree.
The Lord was a Spirit at that time.
Since then He became flesh and has a glorified natural body that can eat, yet walk through walls. That can been seen by Humans.
JLB
Ok, then what was the nature of Gods Holy Arm, and How did EVERY EYE SEE IT?
He could eat, yet Walk on Water and pass through hostile crowds untouched.
What's the difference?
Taking Rev 12 and saying that has come to past and rev 1-3 saying it has come to past is not partial preterism.
Well, Claiming Revelation 1-3 was NOT meant FOR those 7, Actual 1st Century Churches and has not come to pass is Calling the Risen, Glorified Christ a Liar.
But maybe you are comfortable with that?
HUH?@Rev33 do you believe Jesus is returning for His Church/bride/people ?
I believe there will be a future to us consummation of the cosmos that is spoken of in the Creeds.
I do not Believe scripture contains any teaching on the timing and nature of that event however.
HUH?@Rev33 do you believe Jesus is returning for His Church/bride/people ?
I believe there will be a future to us consummation of the cosmos that is spoken of in the Creeds.
I do not Believe scripture contains any teaching on the timing and nature of that event however.
When vague answers show up for direct question my suspicious mind goes into gear...
We do not kick full preterist out of the forums. The forums consider full preterism to be a heresy.
What???
Mike, you are WoF, not Calvinist. I'm a combination, non denominational. Believe in the gifts but not some of the garbage that has been added to the good stuff. I am not Baptist but I believe some of the same things they do.
Defining someone's belief by giving it a name is just a help give an overview of what they may believe. A starting point if you will.
A furturist, partial furturist or partial preterist, preterist, pre-trib, post-trib, amill., post mill, etc. are JUST terms used for the study of end times. They are not about someone's salvation beliefs.
Most partial preterist DO NOT believe that the Second Coming has already happened!!
I could say I am a partial preterist, a partial furturist, and in some teachings an "historicalist" (?). Just love those "isms" and "ists".