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how will salvation go from a personal decision to a national offer by the lord ....
I'll use a worldy example type question:
How can life insurance go from a personal decision to buy it to a corporate offer where people work?
ok that negates the idea of a national salvation of isreal. why? because all these jews saved before the rapture are what you just described.
people make up the nation of isreal. when you look at it that way and functioning of the church it makes sense to say that for isreal to return and be that light doesnt line up with what jesus came to do.
the idea of the seed of eve that would bring the redeemer to save the world means that the redeemer himself died for the world. he not isreal is that light of men.
Not sure what you are driving at, Jason. Some are saved now, and some later, i.e. the millennium when they as a nation will have Messiah reigning over them, they are saved from destruction, restored nationally, and offered the new covenant in Jeremiah 31.
my major beef with futurism that is on isreal is the idea that they are used instead of the church in this millenium with a return not even to the law but works only( a totally fail on what the lord did then).
i agree and many futurist just overlook that part. i did because i never really questioned it until hitch and reba and others challenged me.Yeah, surely it can't be in God's plan for Israel to return to her vomit for a thousand years.
Proverbs 26:11
Yeah, surely it can't be in God's plan for Israel to return to her vomit for a thousand years.
Proverbs 26:11
why am i not shocked at that. post that so that i can use that.Did you know that DTS actually taught that the church would spend that time in the sky in the 'New Jerusalem' hovering over the earth while the Jews resumed Temple rites and Christ commuted back and forth?
Did you know that DTS actually taught that the church would spend that time in the sky in the 'New Jerusalem' hovering over the earth while the Jews resumed Temple rites and Christ commuted back and forth?
why am i not shocked at that. post that so that i can use that.
lol. that is funny. i know you didnt mean it that way.I'll see if I can find my 'Things To come ' ,,,after the game
In the end, they will ALL be saved regardless, AS it is written.
Let me get you right. You believe that everyone who converts to the religion taught by the Koran, err, I mean Talmud, will be Saved, in spite of dying in a state of explicit rejection of Christ?
Cited Romans 11:25-30. You are welcome to deal with that, which has zero to do with the 'koran or muslims' but with blinded enemies of the Gospel of Israel who were blinded by God Himself.
Will say in advance that you will read it and NOT see regardless.
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Answer the question! Do you believe that people who call themselves Jews go to Heaven even though they reject Jesus?
Read Romans 11:25-30. What does it say? It takes zero belief to read the text and see plainly what it says.