[__ Prayer __] Mariah Carey and Nick Cannon

[Claudya]

I used to LUST based on some of those images. trust me its not a simple some skin. its a lot of skin. not as bad as others but trust me her first album that came out in 1990, had gospel music in it and she was modestly dressed. if the mods allow I can find a few of her songs to post, say the one with old dirty bastard and listen to what she sings. she clearly needs prayer.

Sorry, but your lust is *your issue to deal with. You are responsible for what's going on in your head.

Claudya I live near a beach. that doesn't work against me. I have seen some things that are pushing the limits. what does romans 14 say? if I cause a man or woman to lust , falter even though im free to do it then its a sin.

So don't cause anyone to lust so you don't become a sinner of that sort. Other than that your lust is still your issue. You know that the plank of wood in your own eye takes priority over the speck in someone else's?

 

[jasonc]

Have you ended your career doing that which you planned or wanted to do? I sure didn't, and did what I could be successful at to make ends meet. Prayerfully many of these are born of God, and He will work in them throughout their lives to come into God's will for them.

she started in that and it didn't last, that isn't an ending but not even a start.that is like telling me a pvt who was booted out of the army had a military career.

 

[jasonc]

Sorry, but your lust is *your issue to deal with. You are responsible for what's going on in your head.


So don't cause anyone to lust so you don't become a sinner of that sort. Other than that your lust is still your issue. You know that the plank of wood in your own eye takes priority over the speck in someone else's?

so when there are Christian nudists? its my problem? its, after all its MY responsibility. and I was never against bikinis but have seen string bikinis that left little doubt. my wife calls girls out on that when they huff and puff when men look. she has told a girl, if you don't like that attention then don't dress like a whore. Miami, fl , Brevard county, Daytona have nude beaches. so should a Christian partake? where does it stop? after all its my problem.

 

[jasonc]

so if this was an elder in your church whom had images on the church website of that, would you then confront her?

food for thought.

 

[jasonc]

. but well im just thinking its my fault. It should accept Christian can pose nude in porn mags or with playboy, porn lite. my and those like me shouldn't judge.

has anyone heard that she posed in playboy? I remember something about that. but Wikipedia makes no mention of it.

 

[jasonc]

still she needs prayer. claudya I know my town. I know what the teens do as I see them in my church about from time to time. I was surprised when I took went with Nathan to a fair and all the flesh I saw from teens in church and also others that I didn't know. a few girls whore shorts so short that I could see cheeks and I wasn't even trying to look. if those were my children. they wouldn't be allowed out in that.

 

[Claudya]

so when there are Christian nudists? its my problem? its, after all its MY responsibility. and I was never against bikinis but have seen string bikinis that left little doubt. my wife calls girls out on that when they huff and puff when men look. she has told a girl, if you don't like that attention then don't dress like a whore. Miami, fl , Brevard county, Daytona have nude beaches. so should a Christian partake? where does it stop? after all its my problem.

I noticed Americans have a beef with nudity.
In my opinion if christians enjoy nudity they can go to nudist beaches. It's not automatically sexual. If a christian notices s/he is getting in trouble lusting after others at those beaches because s/he sees them naked s/he should either get her/himself under control, or leave. But s/he can't blame everyone else for being naked if those people are comfortable with it.

 

[jasonc]

I noticed Americans have a beef with nudity.
In my opinion if christians enjoy nudity they can go to nudist beaches. It's not automatically sexual. If a christian notices s/he is getting in trouble lusting after others at those beaches because s/he sees them naked s/he should either get her/himself under control, or leave. But s/he can't blame everyone else for being naked if those people are comfortable with it.

right sure. so you don't mind if I go there and gawk? desensitation? I have watched ads from Europe. everything from coke, to organic food is sold with sex in mind. no lusting there.

 

[Claudya]

. but well im just thinking its my fault. It should accept Christian can pose nude in porn mags or with playboy, porn lite. my and those like me shouldn't judge.

has anyone heard that she posed in playboy? I remember something about that. but Wikipedia makes no mention of it.

Right, you shouldn't judge. Whether Christians who pose in a pin-up or porn mag maybe an odd imagination, the state of their salvation and their spiritual path is still only between them and God. As far as you are concerned they are still question.
Your job is not to lust after them.

 

[follower]

Christians sin all the way, they steal, murder, cheat and lie like the sinners they are. I can't believe that you reject a person simply based on how many clothes she wears - a something that is totally subject to cultural standards, climate and kind of activity a person is involved in.

read 1 John 1 - 5 please; re true believers do not continue to sin willfully. it is true that christians sin all the way, steal, murder(yes, murder) cheat and lie like sinners (because 'christians') in the world are not 'Christians in Christ Jesus' - there's a humongous difference.

also, a person subject to Christ Jesus is not "totally subject to cultural standards, climate and kind of activity... involved in".

remember a private in the army - he is told what to do, where to do it, how to do it, what to wear, what not to wear, and so on.

he is not entangled in the world and it's affairs when he is on duty.

 

[Claudya]

right sure. so you don't mind if I go there and gawk? desensitation? I have watched ads from Europe. everything from coke, to organic food is sold with sex in mind. no lusting there.

Those ads are usually sexist - women are objectified - and the omnipresent sexuality is annoying. Yeah and it comes with inevitable desensitisation.
Anyway, whether you go to a nudist beach in order to gawk that's clearly your own sin. Nudists usually have no sexual intentions, they just enjoy being naked. When everyone else is naked, too, it's not awkward. You get used to it, and that's actually a good thing.
Maybe you should give it a try. ;-)

 

[Sparkey]

I know very little of Ms. Carey herself having never met her. That just puts us on even ground, doesn't it?

We are each told to be holy (to walk away from and to separate ourselves from all sin). Why? Because our Father in heaven is holy. We are told to be like HIM. Being holy includes being considerate of others. That's where the command, "Love others as you love yourself," comes in. Being holy especially includes being considerate of our weaker brothers and sisters by choosing to NOT place a block of stumbling in their path.

Dear brethren, "Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world" (1 John 2:15).

There is no denying the enmity between Spirit and flesh.

"No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other" (Matthew 6:24).

 

[Eugene]

True believers do not continue to sin willfully.

I do not know what you label the sins you commit; "Accidental" ??? That will impress God.

If I’m understanding you correctly, there is a huge difference in the walk of a Christian having the Spirit of Christ in them, and those who abide with Him. Many sons of God are out of the will of God which the Holy Spirit is attempting to work in their lives, but Jesus remains faithful to us; He cannot deny us, His own body.

 

[follower]

as i often posted (and others did to) i mean what is written throughout O.T. and N.T. , as in first john chapters 1 through 5, and Yeshua in the Gospels.
those who are immersed in His Name do not (willfully) desire to sin nor continue to sin.

then if and when someone immersed in Him sins, it is written , in Scripture(remember), what to do.

I do not know what you label the sins you commit; "Accidental" ??? That will impress God.....

 

[jasonc]

Those ads are usually sexist - women are objectified - and the omnipresent sexuality is annoying. Yeah and it comes with inevitable desensitisation.
Anyway, whether you go to a nudist beach in order to gawk that's clearly your own sin. Nudists usually have no sexual intentions, they just enjoy being naked. When everyone else is naked, too, it's not awkward. You get used to it, and that's actually a good thing.i
Maybe you should give it a try. ;-)

right, sure, and my wife? she would murder any female that went to look like two nudist don't notice each other? I know better. I dated a girl who If I mentioned the thought would have done that. she was a stripper.

 

[jasonc]

Right, you shouldn't judge. Whether Christians who pose in a pin-up or porn mag maybe an odd imagination, the state of their salvation and their spiritual path is still only between them and God. As far as you are concerned they are still question.
Your job is not to lust after them.

so seeds?right if I make a living off of porn and show up in church that means I should be allowed to preach, teach? my pastor kicked off the choir a lot of woman whom should cleavage. he said, set the example. go forbid we teach holiness. insteads its their problem not mine. I know women whom have said I dress like this to get MALE ATTENTION. duh.

 

[Eugene]

Those who are immersed in His Name do not (willfully) desire to sin nor continue to sin.

You have added the word "desire" to your thoughts unless I missed it in your previous posts. My point was, is the sin we do, and we know that we all do, is it on purpose (willful) or accidental? In other words are you saying the devil made you do it?

 

[Angel]

Here's hope!!!

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Keep praying!

 

[Eugene]

 

[AirDancer]

Prayers continue