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Perhaps.
If the Bride is the Church spread across many denominations, isn't the harlot the same in that the Spiritual Whore is spread across denominations?
I'm just curious 'where' you found those quotes from the Scriptures?
Yes, but...
It's within my past studies of the four Empires starting with the Babylonian Empire up to the revived Roman Empire including a deep study of the Jesuit Militant Priesthood. The Jesuits have always secretly controlled the government of every nation from the time of Ignatius Loyola and his military background as the Pope gave approval for the Society of Jesus in 1540.
I was only using the Church of Pergamum as an example of allowing false doctrines in the church as many become blinded to the true doctrines of Christ as they follow after the harlot.
Right, and that's what I'm asking you to show me 'where' in the Scriptures do we find that description of the the Beast?
While I'm not saying definitively that you are wrong, I question where you find all this descriptive talk that goes pretty well far afield of what the Scriptures actually tell us. What you've written here is a historical account of several past governments of the earth, but nowhere do I see that any of this gives credence to your claim that this Beast to come will control all the things that you are claiming.
So, this Babylon, Babylon, that has or is falling, is then referred to with the pronoun 'her'. And it is this 'her' that has taken in and is filled with all of those Satanic propositions that you listed earlier. If that's where you're getting this theology that there's going to rise up this great power over people by some government that is going to control your list of issues, I think you may be wrong.
So much of this is a wide span of scripture, Biblical history, the study of the four Empires mixed with the past, present and future. It's very in-depth, but if you want I wrote a book on Revelation called The Unveiling that can be found in the subforum Revelation. Scroll down and if you read Chapter 13 it covers all of this with scripture and more than what I can display in here. It took me many years compiling all of this for many years, but to lengthy for the forum.
Those Left Behind series are so unbiblical, but many will believe anything as I use to believe in a pretrib Rapture, but scripture does not support it no matter how hard they try to teach this. I use to believe all of that pretrib stuff before I started breaking away and studying all this for myself. All I can think about in my studies is all the persecutions against God's own beginning with Babylon Empire clear up to the Roman Empire believing that the Roman Empire has been revived, but disguises it's secrecy under the heading of religion. I can only hope I'm right.
Oops I forgot to answer this. It starts in Daniel chapter two with Nebuchadnezzar's dream and Daniel explaining that dream. Then it's all a part of Daniel 7, 9 and runs throughout so many different scriptures ending with Revelation 17-18.
Don't countries today have genders? Fatherland, Motherland?
These are just English words of description for the feminine and masculine just like the dominant image of Babylon in Rev 17 that the word woman is symbolic as the mother of harlots who sets out to seduce others. Also the same symbolism as the Bride of Christ being neither male or female. but of one body in Christ.
Yes. But I'm not referring to the words of men, but rather how God uses some particular words in certain places. I don't think you'll find either of those names anywhere translated in God's word. However, the two specific words that you bring up are generally terms that are used in the Germanic and Russo nations. I don't even think that Jews refer to their nation or the land thereof with either of those terms.
But, in using that reference, you must see that God's word refers to His Son's church as a 'bride'. In those days, all brides were women. Not so much today, but in those days when God's word was brought forth. He uses the word 'bride' to describe the body of believers (the religious church if you will) with a feminine term.
That was my point in showing another instance of using the feminine, but in a good way being that of both male and female either being God's own or that of Satan's house.
Hi Ted (good name that. It was my dad's name, he was actually Albert Edward, but was always called Ted)
It doesn't fit.
The city of Babylon, once literal, is a metonymy for the world and its ancient Babylonian system of commerce, characterized by luxury and excess, of which the nations and kings of the world became intoxicated with the wine of her adulteries. The beast system that is coming will destroy her. For God has put it in the heart of the 10 horns/kings of the beast to do that. Bye, bye capitalism. Hello communism.
It is both religious and secular. The pope laims to rule over heaven, earth and hell wearing a triple crown to show it. Many countries have diplomatic nations with the Vatican. The Vatican issues Euros. It is a secular state first and a religious entity second. It has ruled kings, crowned kings, even made kings kneel down and crowned kings using their feet.