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Republican party dissolving itself?
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Uncle J
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Now that the GOP is fully tethering it's fate to Donald's, it's suddenly not going so well. But then, I don't know what else they expected given Donald's historic record of losing.
Republican Party suffers the most humiliating 24 hours in recent memory
Republicans are rolling into the new day with absolutely nothing to show for surrendering everything to Trump. The best bill they could have hoped to negotiate is gone, they didn’t get their sham impeachment, they didn’t get their Israel-without-Ukraine funding package, and the chair of the party is packing up to leave. Meanwhile, Trump is entering the day with a much greater chance that he will face criminal proceedings before the election.
There aren’t a lot of New York Times headlines that bear repeating, but this one works:
Republican Party suffers the most humiliating 24 hours in recent memory
Republicans are rolling into the new day with absolutely nothing to show for surrendering everything to Trump. The best bill they could have hoped to negotiate is gone, they didn’t get their sham impeachment, they didn’t get their Israel-without-Ukraine funding package, and the chair of the party is packing up to leave. Meanwhile, Trump is entering the day with a much greater chance that he will face criminal proceedings before the election.
There aren’t a lot of New York Times headlines that bear repeating, but this one works:
Barbarian
Member
And if gets worse... when I warned people that the Dobbs decision would backfire... Now Florida may have an abortion rights amendment on the ballot.
www.nbcnews.com
Florida Supreme Court hears arguments over an abortion rights ballot measure
The conservative-leaning court now has until April 1 to approve or reject the proposed language for the constitutional amendment.
www.nbcnews.com
Barbarian
Member
Why Congressional Republicans are imploding before our eyes
- This week has shown the extent of congressional Republicans' struggles.
- Now, even the Senate GOP seems to be going through it.
- Trump has clearly worsened the situation, but the rot was there long before him.
Lankford co-produced a package with some of the most conservative immigration policies that leading Democrats, including President Joe Biden, have ever supported. He even brought along the Chamber of Commerce, once the gold standard for GOP policies, and the Border Patrol Union, the latter of which endorsed Trump in 2020.
Before the bill was even released, the Oklahoma Republican party formally censured Lankford. Half-truths and outright lies about the legislation spread through conservative media. Trump and even a few Republicans said the quiet part out loud: the election was more important than any potential fix for the border crisis.
Why Congressional Republicans are imploding before our eyes
Trump has clearly worsened the situation, but the rot was there long before him.
www.businessinsider.com
Uncle J
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High-profile Republicans head for the exits amid House GOP dysfunction
House Republicans were shocked by some of the recent high-profile retirements announced by their colleagues, which have included powerful committee chairs and rising stars inside the GOP.
But given the miserable state of affairs inside the House right now, they also weren’t exactly surprised.
“They’ve signed up to do serious things. And we’re not doing serious things,” said Rep. Ken Buck of Colorado, a conservative who is retiring after bucking his party on several key issues.
Rep. Don Bacon of Nebraska, a moderate who represents a key swing seat, pointed to his party’s struggle to govern as driving the departures.
“When you’re divided in your own conference, the joy of the job is harder,” Bacon told CNN. “When you have folks on your own team with their knives out, it makes it less enjoyable.”
And Rep. Carlos Gimenez of Florida, an ally of deposed former Speaker Kevin McCarthy, said this is not how he or many of his colleagues imagined life in the majority, saying, “I thought that some of our members would be smarter.”
“A lot of us are frustrated with what’s going on, and that’s just being flat-out honest,” he told CNN. “It’s foolish. And it’s been proven to be foolish. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.”
House Republicans were shocked by some of the recent high-profile retirements announced by their colleagues, which have included powerful committee chairs and rising stars inside the GOP.
But given the miserable state of affairs inside the House right now, they also weren’t exactly surprised.
“They’ve signed up to do serious things. And we’re not doing serious things,” said Rep. Ken Buck of Colorado, a conservative who is retiring after bucking his party on several key issues.
Rep. Don Bacon of Nebraska, a moderate who represents a key swing seat, pointed to his party’s struggle to govern as driving the departures.
“When you’re divided in your own conference, the joy of the job is harder,” Bacon told CNN. “When you have folks on your own team with their knives out, it makes it less enjoyable.”
And Rep. Carlos Gimenez of Florida, an ally of deposed former Speaker Kevin McCarthy, said this is not how he or many of his colleagues imagined life in the majority, saying, “I thought that some of our members would be smarter.”
“A lot of us are frustrated with what’s going on, and that’s just being flat-out honest,” he told CNN. “It’s foolish. And it’s been proven to be foolish. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.”
Riven
Member
God willing. The Republican party is cancer on society, and has been for many decades. The neocons truly are the scum of the American people. Traitors and cowards. All of them.
Riven
Member
Once again, you're being dishonest. Direct democracies would be great for densely populated areas like America's major cities. That's why the left is always trying to diminish the electoral vote. But it would be very bad news for fly over states and small town rural America. Their votes wouldn't matter anymore. That would genuinely put us on the path to civil war.
Again, the United States was never meant to be a democracy. It was always meant to be a constitutional republic. By the way, we are currently neither of these things. We are essentially an oligarchy. But mentioning that on a mainline "news network" isn't good for buisness.
Tell that to the men who fought and died for America. I'm sure they would love to hear that they were in fact fighting for "not a democracy".
Riven
Member
They fought and died for a ruling class that never gave a damn about them and still doesn't. My generation, the millenials, know this. Gen Z knows it. And wouldn't you know it, recruitment numbers are down across the board.
Younger people don't want to sacrifice their one and only life in some godforsaken desert, or frozen wasteland in eastern Europe, for the rich oligarchs so that they can become richer.
Uncle J
Member
Except the Republicans didn't make that distinction.
We are a democratic republic, where we vote democratically for our representatives. As you saw in the video of the WA GOP, they specifically want to end that for US Senators.
With Don the Con being the King Oligarch....or at least vying to be.
Riven
Member
Did they not? I'm pretty sure I heard the woman say we are devolving into a direct democracy.
Who would be voting for the senators then? I guess it would be like the European Union with it's unelected officials. Well the EU is considered democratic despite having officials in power that were never elected.
Biden, too.
ezrider
Member
Guess you missed the part of the video clip where they demonstrate they are against the constitution too, so oops, you can't honestly say they are for a "constitutional" republic. They passed their own resolution calling for a repeal of the 17th amendment; You know the one, the one that allowed the electorate to choose their senators rather than unelected party bosses. For these people, the constitution stands in their way.
Hi Riven
For the record, the EU is made up of several nations. Each of which has it's own form of governance. Some are democratic and some are not. I am curious though as to which nation or leader in the EU you are referencing?
God bless,
Ted