Bible Study Source Of Nature

[Soul man]

Nature comes from a Father, John 3:6,
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

This of course describes a birthing, which also means that the source of the birthing is a father.
Another place this can be seen is in Adam's relationship with God.
God was Adam's creator and never his Father.
When Adam was created he had no father, therefore he had no nature.
Being without nature magnified the soul to the point of being able to name all the animals that were being created.
A study of animals and you find Adam was very intelligent (soul-mind component).
When God breathed into Adam he became a living soul, not to be confused with a living, quickening spirit, Romans 8:11,
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

So Adam recieved a nature when he was beguiled by the serpent, and death by sin entered this world, Romans 5:12,
12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

Have you seen those that make a ministry out of trying to rid the world of evil, and fighting the devil all the time.
The scripture says by one man all of mankind became corrupt. Satan didn't have to possess all of creation, but just corrupt one man, and he was able to accomplish what he sat out to do.
Separate God's creation from Him.
As we read the scriptures and learn how evil works, you see Satan shoots himself in the foot every time.
From being cast out of Heaven, to the fall in the garden, to the cross.
Now for the born again, with the nature of their Father, he is completely defeated.
Going back to the beginning where the Father spoke of this day, the greatest victory for a Christian was proclaimed, Gen. 3:15,
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

The cross was the bruising of Jesus heal, but the victory was the death sin-nature was crushed, destroyed, and completely killed out.
Glory to God, the reason to celebrate this season.

 

[Chopper]

Hi there old Buddy. This is a very interesting thread Soul man. I'd like to know more of your thinking on this that you wrote....

God was Adam's creator and never his Father.
When Adam was created he had no father, therefore he had no nature.

I see your reasoning, if Adam had no father, he had no nature....What makes you think that Yahweh Who created Adam was not in the same way his Father? Please look at Genesis 1....
Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."

Adam was made in the image of Elohim. He was made after Elohim's likeness....Since Adam was created in the image and likeness of Elohim, I'm thinking that if that is so, then Elohim had no nature.

I just want further understanding about this "no Father, and no nature".

 

[Soul man]

Hi there old Buddy. This is a very interesting thread Soul man. I'd like to know more of your thinking on this that you wrote....


I see your reasoning, if Adam had no father, he had no nature....What makes you think that Yahweh Who created Adam was not in the same way his Father? Please look at Genesis 1....
Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."

Adam was made in the image of Elohim. He was made after Elohim's likeness....Since Adam was created in the image and likeness of Elohim, I'm thinking that if that is so, then Elohim had no nature.

I just want further understanding about this "no Father, and no nature".

Hey 'ol buddy, thanks for chimming in. Peter talks about the divine nature, 2 Peter 1:4,
4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
We can see by this verse God has a nature.
Creating Adam in His Image and likeness ; resemblance, model, shape, image, fashion, similitude.
Life, nature, and spirit are synonymous terms, sons come about only by a birthing (you must be born again).
Having to be born again means there was a spiritual birth in the beginning, at the fall.
Our first nature came about by a birthing, through a father, John 8:38,44,
38 I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
As well as the two seeds in Gen. 3:15,
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Nature is in the seed, life is in the seed. Our first life was death-life, however it was a life, that contained spirit-nature.
The Father never creates sons, they have to be birthed, the only way for this to come about is by Christ in them.
Which type of relationship (a birthing) didn't exist for Adam or anyone else in the Old Testament.
God placed Lucifer as a "son of the morning" He did not birth him.
God birthing His Own children was not a known fact by anyone in the Old Testament, none of the prophets ever said anything about it, there is nothing prophesied about it, something God kept hid in Himself, until Paul, Romans 16:25,
25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began.

Paul never uses the words born again, he always refers to Christ in us as the mystery, Col. 1:27,
27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:

Old man out, new man in, sin nature out (crucified), new man-nature (Christ) in.
Creation it self proves you need a father to bring forth a child.
Mary brought forth a body, but God gave the Son (nature).
No one knew God had in His mind to birth His own children by Christ in them until He gives that information to the Apostle Paul.
Without Paul we would not even know about Christ in us the hope of glory.

 

[Chopper]

Ok Buddy, That helps. Thank you.

 

[Jim Parker]

When Adam was created he had no father, therefore he had no nature.

He was a creature. That was his nature.
He was a creature made in the image and likeness of God and so he was unlike every other creature.
There are two natures: created (everything in the universe) and uncreated (God).