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Rick W
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Why?
He's simply giving the people what they want... a show and spectacle. People want entertained and spend vast amounts of money to be entertained 24/7.
A few years back I had the opportunity to visit the home of a man who was financially independent. Money was no issue for him. At his home he showed me around. Toys, nothing but toys. All of it. The toys that lost favor or were broken were stored either in the 4 car garage or one the many storage buildings on the property. There was no library, no sign of any kind of craft, no form of mental challange other than video games or anything to do with learning or furthering an interest or talent.
"He who dies with the most toys wins."
Right?
After that I realized he pretty much depicted the cross section of our society. "Entertain me" is the demand not the option.
When people decide they've had enough of being treated like children then maybe things will change and guys like Hinn will be out of business. But I'm not holding my breath. In the meantime the entertainment industry will continue to feed the demands of the people who have no desire to use their head for anything other than garbage collection and a place to put headphones.
Who are the heroes today? Entertainers and sports figures.
Think about it.
He's simply giving the people what they want... a show and spectacle. People want entertained and spend vast amounts of money to be entertained 24/7.
A few years back I had the opportunity to visit the home of a man who was financially independent. Money was no issue for him. At his home he showed me around. Toys, nothing but toys. All of it. The toys that lost favor or were broken were stored either in the 4 car garage or one the many storage buildings on the property. There was no library, no sign of any kind of craft, no form of mental challange other than video games or anything to do with learning or furthering an interest or talent.
"He who dies with the most toys wins."
Right?
After that I realized he pretty much depicted the cross section of our society. "Entertain me" is the demand not the option.
When people decide they've had enough of being treated like children then maybe things will change and guys like Hinn will be out of business. But I'm not holding my breath. In the meantime the entertainment industry will continue to feed the demands of the people who have no desire to use their head for anything other than garbage collection and a place to put headphones.
Who are the heroes today? Entertainers and sports figures.
Think about it.
M
MrVersatile48
Guest
The Bible says, "Touch not the Lord's anointed"
See http://www.BennyHinn.org - he's in Rome now & will be in Paris soon
The Heart of the South Readies for Training for Ministry Conference
Birmingham symbolizes classic southern charm, architecture, and hospitality.
Nestled in the rolling foothills of the Appalachian Mountains, this vibrant city serves up nationally recognized dining, shopping, and world-class attractions.
On Friday and Saturday, September 14–15, 2007, Birmingham’s famed Jefferson Convention Complex Concert Hall will host the Benny Hinn Ministries Training for Ministry Conference for partners and friends.
With powerful worship and anointed teaching, the two-day conference is sure to be a life-changing time of preparation for believers who are intent on discovering in a greater way how to minister during the last days.
LOCATION
Birmingham Jefferson Convention Complex
Concert Hall
2100 Richard Arrington Jr. Blvd. North
Birmingham, AL 35203
DATE
September 14–15, 2007
TIMES
Friday 7 p.m.
Saturday 10 a.m. & 7 p.m.
Find out more about this conference 24/7 by calling 1-800-433-1900.
http://www.bennyhinn.org/articles/artic ... cfm/id/291
See http://www.cfan.org @ Rheihard Bonnke - whom Katsa also tries to destroy
http://uk.cfan.org/?lang=en-GB
http://uk.cfan.org/Mission-Journals.aspx
As she does http://www.kcm.org - 40 years in blest ministry
http://www.emic.org/2007dor/
& http://www.mcwe.com - 50 years in blest ministry
http://www.mcwe.com/osom/
& http://www.JoyceMeyer.org
http://www.joycemeyer.org/Conferences/home.htm
http://www.joycemeyer.org/eStore/default.htm
See also Book Reviews for Benny's & Rheinhart's books
Benny Hinn books
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=27765
Reinhard Bonnke books
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=27764
Kathryn Kuhlman books
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=27767
Morris Cerullo books
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=27766
The Korean Pentecost
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=27427
See also
Vital spiritual gifts - & why
viewtopic.php?f=32&t=27553
Must go
Ian
See http://www.BennyHinn.org - he's in Rome now & will be in Paris soon
The Heart of the South Readies for Training for Ministry Conference
Birmingham symbolizes classic southern charm, architecture, and hospitality.
Nestled in the rolling foothills of the Appalachian Mountains, this vibrant city serves up nationally recognized dining, shopping, and world-class attractions.
On Friday and Saturday, September 14–15, 2007, Birmingham’s famed Jefferson Convention Complex Concert Hall will host the Benny Hinn Ministries Training for Ministry Conference for partners and friends.
With powerful worship and anointed teaching, the two-day conference is sure to be a life-changing time of preparation for believers who are intent on discovering in a greater way how to minister during the last days.
LOCATION
Birmingham Jefferson Convention Complex
Concert Hall
2100 Richard Arrington Jr. Blvd. North
Birmingham, AL 35203
DATE
September 14–15, 2007
TIMES
Friday 7 p.m.
Saturday 10 a.m. & 7 p.m.
Find out more about this conference 24/7 by calling 1-800-433-1900.
http://www.bennyhinn.org/articles/artic ... cfm/id/291
See http://www.cfan.org @ Rheihard Bonnke - whom Katsa also tries to destroy
http://uk.cfan.org/?lang=en-GB
http://uk.cfan.org/Mission-Journals.aspx
As she does http://www.kcm.org - 40 years in blest ministry
http://www.emic.org/2007dor/
& http://www.mcwe.com - 50 years in blest ministry
http://www.mcwe.com/osom/
& http://www.JoyceMeyer.org
http://www.joycemeyer.org/Conferences/home.htm
http://www.joycemeyer.org/eStore/default.htm
See also Book Reviews for Benny's & Rheinhart's books
Benny Hinn books
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=27765
Reinhard Bonnke books
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=27764
Kathryn Kuhlman books
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=27767
Morris Cerullo books
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=27766
The Korean Pentecost
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=27427
See also
Vital spiritual gifts - & why
viewtopic.php?f=32&t=27553
Must go
Ian
M
MrVersatile48
Guest
Timely Word 4 Today that all the above anointed servants of God would heartily endorse:-
Reflections
Blessed Are Those Who Hunger
Quotations to stir heart and mind.
Compiled by Richard A. Kauffman
BLESSED are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled.
Matthew 5:6
IF THIS VERSE is to you one of the most blessed statements of the whole of Scripture, you can be quite certain you are a Christian; if it is not, then you had better examine the foundations again.
David Martyn Lloyd-Jones, Studies in the Sermon on the Mount
IT IS THE DESIRE for God which is the most fundamental appetite of all, and it is an appetite we can never eliminate. We may seek to disown it, but it will not go away. If we deny that it is there, we shall in fact only divert it to some other object or range of objects. And that will mean that we invest some creature or creatures with the full burden of our need for God, a burden which no creature can carry.
Simon Tugwell, The Beatitudes
THIS BEATITUDE prompts a look at our heart's desire. What hungers and desires operate within us? Which of them commands our utmost loyalty?
John W. Miller, The Christian Way
IT IS NOT the one who has attained righteousness but the one who hungers for it whom the Beatitudes assert God blesses.
Bonnie B. Thurston, Religious Vows, the Sermon on the Mount, and Christian Living
THUS, because it is commonly thought that the rich are made wealthy through their own greed, Jesus says in effect: "No, it is just the opposite. For it is righteousness that produces true wealth. Thus, so long as you act righteously, you do not fear poverty or tremble at hunger. Rather, those who extort are those who lose all, while one who is in love with righteousness possesses all other goods in safety."
Chrysostom, Homilies on the Gospel of Saint Matthew
BIBLICAL is more than a private and personal affair; it includes social righteousness as well. …
Thus Christians are committed to hunger for righteousness in the whole human community as something pleasing to a righteous God.
John R. W. Stott, The Message of the Sermon on the Mount
THE HUNGER for righteousness is the one appetite that Christ blessesâ€â€not to covet possessions or achievement or recognition, but to live, through every action and perception, the kingdom of God.
Jim Forest, The Ladder of the Beatitudes
ONE MIGHT EAT and eat of the superficial, cotton-candy righteousness vended by the professional religious hucksters and never have his hunger assuaged. Or he might drink and drink of their holy water and never have his thirst quenched. But the kingdom righteousness is meat indeed and drink indeedâ€â€rich, nourishing, satisfying.
Clarence Jordan, Sermon on the Mount
Blessed Are Those Who Hunger
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/200 ... 19.86.html
See also
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/200 ... ml#related
God bless all who truly love God, His Spirit & His Word!
Beware 2 Tim 3 @ http://www.BibleGateway.org
Ian
Reflections
Blessed Are Those Who Hunger
Quotations to stir heart and mind.
Compiled by Richard A. Kauffman
BLESSED are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled.
Matthew 5:6
IF THIS VERSE is to you one of the most blessed statements of the whole of Scripture, you can be quite certain you are a Christian; if it is not, then you had better examine the foundations again.
David Martyn Lloyd-Jones, Studies in the Sermon on the Mount
IT IS THE DESIRE for God which is the most fundamental appetite of all, and it is an appetite we can never eliminate. We may seek to disown it, but it will not go away. If we deny that it is there, we shall in fact only divert it to some other object or range of objects. And that will mean that we invest some creature or creatures with the full burden of our need for God, a burden which no creature can carry.
Simon Tugwell, The Beatitudes
THIS BEATITUDE prompts a look at our heart's desire. What hungers and desires operate within us? Which of them commands our utmost loyalty?
John W. Miller, The Christian Way
IT IS NOT the one who has attained righteousness but the one who hungers for it whom the Beatitudes assert God blesses.
Bonnie B. Thurston, Religious Vows, the Sermon on the Mount, and Christian Living
THUS, because it is commonly thought that the rich are made wealthy through their own greed, Jesus says in effect: "No, it is just the opposite. For it is righteousness that produces true wealth. Thus, so long as you act righteously, you do not fear poverty or tremble at hunger. Rather, those who extort are those who lose all, while one who is in love with righteousness possesses all other goods in safety."
Chrysostom, Homilies on the Gospel of Saint Matthew
BIBLICAL is more than a private and personal affair; it includes social righteousness as well. …
Thus Christians are committed to hunger for righteousness in the whole human community as something pleasing to a righteous God.
John R. W. Stott, The Message of the Sermon on the Mount
THE HUNGER for righteousness is the one appetite that Christ blessesâ€â€not to covet possessions or achievement or recognition, but to live, through every action and perception, the kingdom of God.
Jim Forest, The Ladder of the Beatitudes
ONE MIGHT EAT and eat of the superficial, cotton-candy righteousness vended by the professional religious hucksters and never have his hunger assuaged. Or he might drink and drink of their holy water and never have his thirst quenched. But the kingdom righteousness is meat indeed and drink indeedâ€â€rich, nourishing, satisfying.
Clarence Jordan, Sermon on the Mount
Blessed Are Those Who Hunger
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/200 ... 19.86.html
See also
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/200 ... ml#related
God bless all who truly love God, His Spirit & His Word!
Beware 2 Tim 3 @ http://www.BibleGateway.org
Ian
M
MrVersatile48
Guest
2 Timothy 3
Godlessness in the Last Days
1 But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days.
2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy,
3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good,
4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of Godâ€â€
5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with them.
6 They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over weak-willed women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires,
7 always learning but never able to acknowledge the truth.
8Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these men oppose the truthâ€â€men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected.
9 But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone.
Paul's Charge to Timothy
10 You, however, know all about my teaching, my way of life, my purpose, faith, patience, love, endurance,
11 persecutions, sufferingsâ€â€what kinds of things happened to me in Antioch, Iconium and Lystra, the persecutions I endured. Yet the Lord rescued me from all of them.
12 In fact, everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted,
13 while evil men and impostors will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.
14 But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have become convinced of, because you know those from whom you learned it,
15 and how from infancy you have known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.
16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
17 so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.[/b]
Godlessness in the Last Days
1 But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days.
2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy,
3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good,
4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of Godâ€â€
5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with them.
6 They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over weak-willed women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires,
7 always learning but never able to acknowledge the truth.
8Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these men oppose the truthâ€â€men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected.
9 But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone.
Paul's Charge to Timothy
10 You, however, know all about my teaching, my way of life, my purpose, faith, patience, love, endurance,
11 persecutions, sufferingsâ€â€what kinds of things happened to me in Antioch, Iconium and Lystra, the persecutions I endured. Yet the Lord rescued me from all of them.
12 In fact, everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted,
13 while evil men and impostors will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.
14 But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have become convinced of, because you know those from whom you learned it,
15 and how from infancy you have known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.
16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
17 so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.[/b]
M
MrVersatile48
Guest
Sorry, Vic: I didn't think a thorough rebut of slander was hijacking 
: - surely it's fair, as one post would be too large for today's bite-size society? 
:
Kinda between a rock & a hard place, yes? :roll:
Maybe this is more relevant:- 8-)
Where's Your Confidence? :fadein:
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=29809
:
Definitlely this is more relevant:-
Support Strong for Danger Zone Missions
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=29807&p=347205#p347205
One thing's for sure: with the proliferation of online Christian forums, we need to 'adjust metatags' as a yahoo for Christianforums now puts us at @ the 15th entry - on the 2nd page of results, that some folk wouldn't bother turning to :crazyeyes:
& we need precisely the variety of posts & threads that I daily do to outshine competitor sites - readers can click my name...the 'my www' & 'find all posts by...' to confirm that I was UK *1 salesman in several national & international companies, so I know what I'm talking about :infinity:
I just never did do a basic PC course, so I don't know how to adjust meta-tags & promo our thread elsewhere, like the much-bigger-but-too-unwieldy http://www.ChristianForums.com does so successfully :-?
Not trying to argue or rebel, Vic - just offering sound advice to benefit all of us
God bless!
Ian :-D
: - surely it's fair, as one post would be too large for today's bite-size society? : Kinda between a rock & a hard place, yes? :roll:
Maybe this is more relevant:- 8-)
Where's Your Confidence? :fadein:
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=29809
: Definitlely this is more relevant:-
Support Strong for Danger Zone Missions
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=29807&p=347205#p347205
One thing's for sure: with the proliferation of online Christian forums, we need to 'adjust metatags' as a yahoo for Christianforums now puts us at @ the 15th entry - on the 2nd page of results, that some folk wouldn't bother turning to :crazyeyes:
& we need precisely the variety of posts & threads that I daily do to outshine competitor sites - readers can click my name...the 'my www' & 'find all posts by...' to confirm that I was UK *1 salesman in several national & international companies, so I know what I'm talking about :infinity:
I just never did do a basic PC course, so I don't know how to adjust meta-tags & promo our thread elsewhere, like the much-bigger-but-too-unwieldy http://www.ChristianForums.com does so successfully :-?
Not trying to argue or rebel, Vic - just offering sound advice to benefit all of us
God bless!
Ian :-D
Vic C.
Member
I don't have a problem with you rebuking, but we just thought three long posts filled with links was a bit excessive. No problems though...
Oh there is one; you mentioned Bonnke in a post above. :o I say with love and sincerity, take what Potluck said in his post above and embrace his (and ours) discernment.
See also:
http://www.ministrywatch.com/mw2.1/H_Home.asp (great site)
http://www.ministrywatch.com/mw2.1/F_Su ... =591245704
and
http://www.ministrywatch.com/mw2.1/pdf/ ... nyHinn.pdf
Oh there is one; you mentioned Bonnke in a post above. :o I say with love and sincerity, take what Potluck said in his post above and embrace his (and ours) discernment.
See also:
http://www.ministrywatch.com/mw2.1/H_Home.asp (great site)
http://www.ministrywatch.com/mw2.1/F_Su ... =591245704
and
http://www.ministrywatch.com/mw2.1/pdf/ ... nyHinn.pdf
K
katsa
Guest
Thats exactly what I've been trying to put across to Mr.VERS. It is not slander at all but something for anyone who believes in God in put into consideration, surely the bible has told us there are wolves in sheeps clothing ...lets ask for the spirit of discernment and the truth ...
thanks
thanks
tim-from-pa
Member
katsa said:
I say not to worry about this wolf in sheep's clothing. I think that is quite obvious to anyone who is at least the same level as the Wizard of Oz's scarecrow.
Besides, with all the violence on TV these days, we need some Christian entertainment. I was ROFL! :-D Thanks for sharing that hilarious video.