WHY DID CHRIST SEND HIS DISCIPLES OUT WITH THE GOOD NEWS?

[donadams]

Christ appointed Peter, the apostles, and their successors to govern the church and administer the kingdom until He returns in glory!

Submission and obedience to them is submission and obedience to Christ!

Like Joseph under pharaoh the king and his brothers bowed in obedience to Him as God willed!

Lk 1:32-33 how can Christ be king without a kingdom?

Matt 21:43 Lk 22:29 Dan 7:8 heb 12:28 how is the kingdom taken from Israel and given to the apostles if it does not exist?

Jude 1:25 how can there be dominion without a kingdom?

Matt 6:33 how can we seek a kingdom that does not exist?

Matt 16:18-19 how can Christ the king give Peter the keys of a kingdom that does not exist?

Matt 3:2 Mk 1:5 Lk 21:31 How can they preach: “the kingdom is at hand” if the kingdom does not exist?

It’s Strange anarchy that accepts and loves the king, but rejects the Kingdom, the doctrine, & the ministers the king himself established!

 

[jeremiah1five]

Christ is king and established a kingdom!

Prophecy of the new covenant and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. (The new covenant church) Jn 15:1-5 (the church is the new Jerusalem the kingdom) gal 4:26 (one church) Jn 10:16

Dan 2: 44 And in the days of these kings (Roman Caesars) shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

Isaiah 2:2
And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.

Micah 4:1
But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the Lord shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.

Daniel 7:18
But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever.

Rev 21: 10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;

Lk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

Lk 22:29 And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;

Heb 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,

23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:

Matthew 5:14
Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

Matt 21:43 taken from Israel given to Peter and the apostles Matt 16:18-19 18:18 Jn 20:21 eph 2:20


1 Peter 4:11
If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

Jude 1:8
Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

Jude 1:25
To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

Christ is king and has all authority and dominion!

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The Church has "Jewish" roots.
Israel is the focal point in all human history.
Christ IS the Kingdom of God.
The Old Testament Church and the New Testament Church are One, a Great Cloud of Witnesses.
All Christianity is, is Completed Judaism.

 

[donadams]

The Church has "Jewish" roots.
Israel is the focal point in all human history.
Christ IS the Kingdom of God.
The Old Testament Church and the New Testament Church are One, a Great Cloud of Witnesses.
All Christianity is, is Completed Judaism.

Christ replaced David as king Lk 1:32-33
The new covenant replaced the mosaic covenant gal 4:20-26
The church replaced Israel as the kingdom Matt 21:43

No christ fulfilled the mosaic covenant
With three parts of the law
Moral which is eternal
Peter and the apostles received the jurisdictional authority Matt 16:18-19 18:18 Jn 20:21 of the kingdom taken from the successors of Moses Matt 23:1
The ceremonial fulfilled nailed to the cross

The Jews are rejected outcasts for killing their brother Jesus wandering the earth with the spiritual mark of Cain Matt 23:38
Really all of lk 21:20 Matt 23 and gal 4

Hope this helps

 

[jeremiah1five]

Christ replaced David as king Lk 1:32-33
The new covenant replaced the mosaic covenant gal 4:20-26
The church replaced Israel as the kingdom Matt 21:43

No christ fulfilled the mosaic covenant
With three parts of the law
Moral which is eternal
Peter and the apostles received the jurisdictional authority Matt 16:18-19 18:18 Jn 20:21 of the kingdom taken from the successors of Moses Matt 23:1
The ceremonial fulfilled nailed to the cross

The Jews are rejected outcasts for killing their brother Jesus wandering the earth with the spiritual mark of Cain Matt 23:38
Really all of lk 21:20 Matt 23 and gal 4

Hope this helps

Replacement Theology is unbiblical.
God still has Promises to fulfil towards His Chosen people and the apple of His eye: Israel.
The Lord's Prayer is a "Jewish" prayer.
"Jews" didn't kill Jesus Christ.
God did.

4 Surely he hath borne our griefs,
And carried our sorrows:
Yet we did esteem him stricken,
Smitten of God, and afflicted.
Is 53:4.

You really think man has the final say in the death of the Only Begotten Son of God?
Too much pride.
But that's the fallen arrogance of man.

 

[Free]

Please stick to the topic, which is not Catholicism.

 

[Highway54]

Christ appointed Peter, the apostles, and their successors to govern the church and administer the kingdom until He returns in glory!

Submission and obedience to them is submission and obedience to Christ!

Like Joseph under pharaoh the king and his brothers bowed in obedience to Him as God willed!

Lk 1:32-33 how can Christ be king without a kingdom?

Matt 21:43 Lk 22:29 Dan 7:8 heb 12:28 how is the kingdom taken from Israel and given to the apostles if it does not exist?

Jude 1:25 how can there be dominion without a kingdom?

Matt 6:33 how can we seek a kingdom that does not exist?

Matt 16:18-19 how can Christ the king give Peter the keys of a kingdom that does not exist?

Matt 3:2 Mk 1:5 Lk 21:31 How can they preach: “the kingdom is at hand” if the kingdom does not exist?

It’s Strange anarchy that accepts and loves the king, but rejects the Kingdom, the doctrine, & the ministers the king himself established!

I agree, the Kingdom is real, and Jesus is the now reigning King. Soon it will come and displace the existing governments as you posted. I fully agree with the closing words of the Bible: Amen! Come Lord Jesus!

May it come soon, Don.

 

[donadams]

Replacement Theology is unbiblical.
God still has Promises to fulfil towards His Chosen people and the apple of His eye: Israel.
The Lord's Prayer is a "Jewish" prayer.
"Jews" didn't kill Jesus Christ.
God did.

4 Surely he hath borne our griefs,
And carried our sorrows:
Yet we did esteem him stricken,
Smitten of God, and afflicted.
Is 53:4.

You really think man has the final say in the death of the Only Begotten Son of God?
Too much pride.
But that's the fallen arrogance of man.

Which scripture is unbiblical?

Jews consented to his death

Jn 19:6 When the chief priests therefore and officers saw him, they cried out, saying, Crucify him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Take ye him, and crucify him: for I find no fault in him.

John 18:14
Now Caiaphas was he, which gave counsel to the Jews, that it was expedient that one man should die for the people.

Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Acts 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole

Thanks

 

[jeremiah1five]

Which scripture is unbiblical?

Jews consented to his death

Jn 19:6 When the chief priests therefore and officers saw him, they cried out, saying, Crucify him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Take ye him, and crucify him: for I find no fault in him.

John 18:14
Now Caiaphas was he, which gave counsel to the Jews, that it was expedient that one man should die for the people.

Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Acts 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole

Thanks

All of these statements you made are a belief in Replacement Theology, in general that the Church REPLACED ISRAEL, which is false. This is what you believe. In a false theology:

QUOTE:
Christ replaced David as king Lk 1:32-33
The new covenant replaced the mosaic covenant gal 4:20-26
The church replaced Israel as the kingdom Matt 21:43

Peter and the apostles received the jurisdictional authority Matt 16:18-19 18:18 Jn 20:21 of the kingdom taken from the successors of Moses Matt 23:1

RESPONSE: ALL of these statements are false and contrary to Scripture and the Redemptive plan of God.
The Church replaced NO ONE but is a continuation of the Adamic, Noahic, Abrahamic, Davidic Covenants of God.

Can you say this: Jesus Christ is a "Jewish" Messiah predestined to sit on the throne of David at Jerusalem - NOT ROME.

 

[lastofall]

It is actually much simpler than all these large amount of writings which you all have written: we see in (Mark 6:12) for which cause the Lord sent them out: "And they went out and preached that men should repent."

 

[GodsGrace]

It is actually much simpler than all these large amount of writings which you all have written: we see in (Mark 6:12) for which cause the Lord sent them out: "And they went out and preached that men should repent."

Agreed.
To preach the good news,
To baptize and teach what Jesus taught them.

 

[Randy]

Israel is the apple of His eye.
Gentiles are grafted in to the branch.
If you can’t love Israel you can’t love God.
And if you love God you will love Israel.
Even the Israel of today.

Our place.
If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— 13children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.

Are you speaking of the nation of Israel or of those who practice and adhere to Judaism?
Have you considered that "if" the descendants of those first circumcised believers remained in the faith then they would most likely be called Christians in this day and age?

No one is a Jew unless they have the inward circumcision of the Spirit.
A person is not a Jew who is one only outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. 29No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a person’s praise is not from other people, but from God.

If one loves the people of Israel, then such love dictates preaching the gospel to them for their good not harm for if they reject that truth they are cut off and perish and if they receive that truth they will enter the kingdom of God in the same manner we and all those before us as in grace through faith in Christ Jesus.

Paul and Apollos and others not only gave them the good news but debated the scriptures with them for their good. Jesus is how God chose to forgive sin. There is no other way.

 

[jeremiah1five]

QUOTE: Are you speaking of the nation of Israel or of those who practice and adhere to Judaism?
Have you considered that "if" the descendants of those first circumcised believers remained in the faith then they would most likely be called Christians in this day and age?

RESPONSE: What is Christianity but Completed Judaism. Everyone in Scripture that had positive relationship with God through the Covenant and who looked forward to Israel's Messiah/Christ is Christian. King David was Christian.

QUOTE: If one loves the people of Israel, then such love dictates preaching the gospel to them for their good not harm for if they reject that truth they are cut off and perish and if they receive that truth they will enter the kingdom of God in the same manner we and all those before us as in grace through faith in Christ Jesus.

RESPONSE: Disagree. Let those who are called of God to 'preach' to the people of Israel go and do that as called. But not everyone is called to preach. We are NOT all apostles; we are NOT all evangelists. We all have a place in the Body of Christ and spiritual gifts to accomplish that call but we are NOT all the mouth in the Body of Christ.

Paul and Apollos and others not only gave them the good news but debated the scriptures with them for their good. Jesus is how God chose to forgive sin. There is no other way.

RESPONSE: Paul and Apollos were sent by God to do this. THEY were called to do this.
So, let's not copy or mimic someone else's calling in the Body of Christ. When Christians do this in ignorance, they harm the purposes of God and do damage to those who are really called to such ministry.

 

[Randy]

RESPONSE: What is Christianity but Completed Judaism. Everyone in Scripture that had positive relationship with God through the Covenant and who looked forward to Israel's Messiah/Christ is Christian. King David was Christian.

RESPONSE: Disagree. Let those who are called of God to 'preach' to the people of Israel go and do that as called. But not everyone is called to preach. We are NOT all apostles; we are NOT all evangelists. We all have a place in the Body of Christ and spiritual gifts to accomplish that call but we are NOT all the mouth in the Body of Christ.

RESPONSE: Paul and Apollos were sent by God to do this. THEY were called to do this.
So, let's not copy or mimic someone else's calling in the Body of Christ. When Christians do this in ignorance, they harm the purposes of God and do damage to those who are really called to such ministry.

It would be voluntary that is witnessing to "any" other. What are you doing now?
You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it

 

[jeremiah1five]

It would be voluntary that is witnessing to "any" other. What are you doing now?
You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it

Before God uses a Christian that Christian MUST be taught the Doctrines of Scripture.
One MUST know their calling and place in the Body of Christ as well as their spiritual gifts.
This takes time and experience.
And obedience.

 

[donadams]

Our place.
If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— 13children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.

Are you speaking of the nation of Israel or of those who practice and adhere to Judaism?
Have you considered that "if" the descendants of those first circumcised believers remained in the faith then they would most likely be called Christians in this day and age?

No one is a Jew unless they have the inward circumcision of the Spirit.
A person is not a Jew who is one only outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. 29No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a person’s praise is not from other people, but from God.

If one loves the people of Israel, then such love dictates preaching the gospel to them for their good not harm for if they reject that truth they are cut off and perish and if they receive that truth they will enter the kingdom of God in the same manner we and all those before us as in grace through faith in Christ Jesus.

Paul and Apollos and others not only gave them the good news but debated the scriptures with them for their good. Jesus is how God chose to forgive sin. There is no other way.

We are to love the nation that killed Christ our savior?
Christ declared their house is a house of desolation which was destroyed in 70 ad
Matt 23
Don’t read gal 4
Thanks

 

[Randy]

We are to love the nation that killed Christ our savior?
Christ declared their house is a house of desolation which was destroyed in 70 ad
Matt 23
Don’t read gal 4
Thanks

yes
You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

Did the people of today have anything to do with what took place in the 1st century?

 

[07/07/07]

Jesus said that the gospel would be preached to the whole world, beginning in Jerusalem.

Luke 24
[44] And he [Jesus] said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
[45] Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
[46] And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
[47] And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
[48] And ye are witnesses of these things.

 

[jeremiah1five]

We are to love the nation that killed Christ our savior?
Christ declared their house is a house of desolation which was destroyed in 70 ad
Matt 23
Don’t read gal 4
Thanks

It was God Who slain the Lamb.
God.

4 Surely he hath borne our griefs,
And carried our sorrows:
Yet we did esteem him stricken,
Smitten of God, and afflicted.
Is 53:4.

Rome was the instrument.
For capital punishment Israel would stone the guilty.
Crucifixion was the method of death by Rome.
And throw burning at the stake as another later means to kill Christians by Rome, also.

 

[donadams]

yes
You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

Did the people of today have anything to do with what took place in the 1st century?

They are of that nation.
That nation killed christ
They continue to reject Christ and deny His divinity and miracles resurrection etc.

Matthew 12:30
He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

 

[Hawkins]

This is closely tied to how a truth shall convey among humans. The US government can appoint CNN as its media for government annonouncements. The condition is that CNN must cover the whole United States, not just Indianna or Texas but all that states of US. The Jews are God's chosen people, to a certain extent they are God's CNN. CNN is responsible to examining the credibility of the sources of news, which are usually stories from eyewitnesses. Similarly, God's chosen people is responsible for examining the credibility of the sources of news, which are usually stories from the prophets as God's chosen eyewitnesses.

The Jewisch covenant (OT) only covers the Jews while the New Covenant is supposed to cover all mankind. As a result, Christianity as God's new media must have a coverage of all mankind. That's why the explicit command that the good news must be preached to all nations. If CNN failed its role, the US government may appoint another media for its annonouncements. Similarly, when Judaism failed its role God switched to Christiantiy for His message of salvation to reach all mankind.

Other religions which don't have an explicit command for such a coverage of all mankind, either their gods don't have a message for mankind, or they don't care about humans or they simply don't exist.