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  1. zeke

    Do you have to be baptized to achieve salvation?

    antecedent - a preceding event, condition, cause, phrase, or word.Per Peter the antecedent is not the ark - the antecedent is water, i.e., Noah was 'saved by water' and that water is “the antitype to which baptism now also saves us.†1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto, even baptism...
  2. zeke

    Do you have to be baptized to achieve salvation?

    And we agree – there is nothing written in the NT that contradicts the words of Jesus in Mark 16:16 – “He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that disbelieveth shall be condemned”. This being said we cannot negate the truth that both belief and baptism are to take place before...
  3. zeke

    Do you have to be baptized to achieve salvation?

    And yet you present Barnes as one of your outside sources and he contradicts your own doctrine - a doctrine that contradicts God's word. Where is your consistency Stan?
  4. zeke

    Do you have to be baptized to achieve salvation?

    What part of Ephesians contradicts the words of Jesus...He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that disbelieveth shall be condemned. (Mark 16:16) These words are very important. The first clause [belief and baptism] opposes the notion that faith alone is sufficient for...
  5. zeke

    [_ Old Earth _] Evolution stopped after billions of years.

    But how exactly did theropods sprout wings and avian lungs and fly into the future as birds? Please be specific and try a little science this time.
  6. zeke

    [_ Old Earth _] Debunking Evolution:

    As already noted Darwinism goes well beyond the Modern Synthesis. Read about the Darwinism preached by Dawkins - he will set you straight.
  7. zeke

    [_ Old Earth _] Debunking Evolution:

    Then present your evidence that man and chimp have a common ancestor. Take your time.
  8. zeke

    [_ Old Earth _] EVOLUTION - A BELIEVER'S PERSPECTIVE

    But hundreds of PhD scientists Dissent From Darwinism for the obvious reasons - it does not have the evidence required to keep it afloat. You have been mislead my friend but you can learn from your errors - right?A Scientific Dissent From Darwinism "We are skeptical of claims for the ability of...
  9. zeke

    [_ Old Earth _] EVOLUTION - A BELIEVER'S PERSPECTIVE

    Ruse makes a valid point - evolution 'came into being as a kind of secular ideology, an explicit substitute for Christianity'. Read a little history on the subject. Remember, he is an evolutionist who promotes the same Darwinian lore that you promote. For the record - what is the difference...
  10. zeke

    Do you have to be baptized to achieve salvation?

    I ignored nothing Stan. I addressed the special conversion of Cornelius who obeyed the Lord in baptism and Paul's sins were not washed away until he rose up and was baptized in water. You kick against the pricks.
  11. zeke

    Do you have to be baptized to achieve salvation?

    Okay Stan but you need to re-think your dogma that contradicts God's word - not a good place to be my friend.
  12. zeke

    Do you have to be baptized to achieve salvation?

    Using the same logic - if the Lord observes you on Friday evening after you have talked with the preacher and sees you are on the verge of coming to Christ but before you make that final decision you get run over by a stampeding heard of horses is your Blood bought salvation not a done deal...
  13. zeke

    Do you have to be baptized to achieve salvation?

    You have refuted nothing my friend and you cannot support your dogma that contradicts God's word. Baptism is commanded and the NT does not know of an unbaptized believer. Why - because in every conversion noted under the NT all believers were baptized in water - baptized into Christ...For as...
  14. zeke

    Do you have to be baptized to achieve salvation?

    Faulty logic Stan - the Bible does present baptism as important. Per Jesus Christ - the promise of salvation is made to the one who believes and is baptized - there is no such promise made to the one who believes and refuses to be baptized.
  15. zeke

    Do you have to be baptized to achieve salvation?

    You remain confused Stan. If Paul's sins were 'washed away' before he submitted to baptism why did God's servant tell him to "Arise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord"? Your dogma makes no sense when viewed through what has been revealed. You need to...
  16. zeke

    Do you have to be baptized to achieve salvation?

    No misleading just the facts - what God ordains and commands becomes essential the moment He ordains and commands and it is clear that baptism in water comes from the mind of God. The command to be baptized in water - to be baptized into Christ Jesus is not optional. If this contradicts your...
  17. zeke

    Do you have to be baptized to achieve salvation?

    Wrong again - you are in conflict with the inspired writer - Peter says "baptism now save us" - you say it is not essential to the gospel of Christ. Your dogma does not trump the word of God.
  18. zeke

    Do you have to be baptized to achieve salvation?

    You are mistaken yet again my friend. The baptism noted in Acts 22:16 is the kind that gets you wet. Your understanding of baptism is limited.Acts 22:16 Arise, and be baptized - Take now the profession of Christ’s faith most solemnly upon thee, by being baptized in the name of Father, Son...
  19. zeke

    Do you have to be baptized to achieve salvation?

    Well Dee – it doesn’t matter what you and I believe – it matters what the word of God says and His word is clear – the promise of salvation is given to the one who believes and is baptized – the one who disbelieves is condemned already whether baptized or not baptized. If you have...
  20. zeke

    Do you have to be baptized to achieve salvation?

    You are mistaken again - Paul's sins were not washed away by the blood of Christ until he was baptized in water...And now why are you waiting? Arise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord.' (Act 22:16 NKJV)
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