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    [_ Old Earth _] A Summary of This Year's Defeats of Evolution Theory

    Absolutely, without any doubt. I do not see how evolution changes that in any way, though.
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    [_ Old Earth _] A Summary of This Year's Defeats of Evolution Theory

    I have yet to see an explanation why evolution excludes God. You repeat it over and over, but without giving an example that show why it would be so. I think the reason you haven't presented such an example is because it doesn't exist, and evolution in itself does not exclude God. This is the...
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    [_ Old Earth _] A Summary of This Year's Defeats of Evolution Theory

    No problem. I don't consider the supernatural element as the most grounding feature. There definitely are certain elements in the account of Mary becoming pregnant with our Lord, Jesus Christ, that might well be symbolic to a certain extent. By that I mean we do not know the precise workings...
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    [_ Old Earth _] A Summary of This Year's Defeats of Evolution Theory

    No problem.
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    [_ Old Earth _] A Summary of This Year's Defeats of Evolution Theory

    Please look at the quotations to understand what I am reacting to. I am responding directly to what you wrote in response to my last post, in no way am I implying anything about any statements between you and Barbarian and I do not understand where you get that idea.
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    [_ Old Earth _] A Summary of This Year's Defeats of Evolution Theory

    Allegory and symbolism point to many a thing, not all are the same and work in exactly the same way. Why do you equate allegory and symbolism with a 'white lie?' That is absurd. Sometimes, a symbolical description can be closer to the truth than a pragmatic description and stating pure facts...
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    [_ Old Earth _] A Summary of This Year's Defeats of Evolution Theory

    The text in bold is a biased statement made by an atheist. I see absolutely no reason why Darwinism requires a godless, purposeless and purely naturalistic process that did not have man in mind. Yes, many choose to see it as such, but all evidence (i.e. reality) shows that it DID culminate in...
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    [_ Old Earth _] A Summary of This Year's Defeats of Evolution Theory

    No worries. It was irony, to a large extent. I can imagine. I personally find no radical contradiction between the Bible and modern evolutionary theories. Of course, were we still in the realm of Lamarckism, it would be a different discussion altogether, but we are not. I believe God created...
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    [_ Old Earth _] A Summary of This Year's Defeats of Evolution Theory

    Both of you guys probably know very well that this constant, there-and-back :fight is leading nowhere. zeke, while evolution may not have been completely, 100% proven (it is, after all, called the theory of evolution), it hasn't been disproven either. I understand your frustration over...
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    Is Yahweh and Allah one?

    They also accept his virginal birth, that he was lifted up to heaven in his body (unlike other prophets, including Mohammed, who died normally) and the fact that he is the Messiah. The matter is very complicated, I completely agree. That is why I think we need to entrust ourselves to God and...
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    Is Yahweh and Allah one?

    Not what I said, there is an important distinction. Allah of the Qur'an is a continuation of Yahweh of the OT. If you bring the NT into the discussion, it changes the whole matter. So, if you say Bible (OT+NT), that is absolutely not what I am saying.
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    Is Yahweh and Allah one?

    Not really. I'm basically saying that Yahweh and Allah are one as long as Yahweh is not the whole Trinity. Which is the previously unmentioned option number three (I actually originally included it, then deleted it, but since you ask) -- i.e. more complicated, because it gets us into discussing...
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    Is Yahweh and Allah one?

    Just one to set the facts straight: The Muslims do not reject Christ. They reject only his Godhood. Of the three religions, only Jews reject Christ. Might sound like a detail, but in fact it is not.
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    Is Yahweh and Allah one?

    And to further clarify, so that there are hopefully no more questions of that sort: If you believe that the Holy Trinity, which we worship as Christians, equals Yahweh, then by the very same token the Muslim Allah equals Yahweh as well. If you do not think that the Holy Trinity equals Yahweh...
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    Is Yahweh and Allah one?

    Seriously?
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    Is Yahweh and Allah one?

    No. You are latching onto a single parenthetical, which only contained additional information, a small note from a linguistic perspective. You are completely ignoring -- or so it seems -- the rest of my post, where I am very clear. My position stands. As explained in the rest of that post. No...
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    Christianity VS Islam - who started the battle?

    Any proof of that?
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    Is Yahweh and Allah one?

    Please read what I write more carefully. Allah is the name given to Yahweh in the Islamic tradition (it simply means God in Arabic, and is used even in Arabic Bibles). The word Allah is used both in the Islamic tradition and by the Arabic speaking Christians as well. I have never been to a...
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    Is Yahweh and Allah one?

    No worries, can happen to anyone. Tammuz is not the God of Abraham and culturally there is no direct connection between them. While I would not rule out that sometime at the beginning the Sumerians were approached by God, they quite possibly misunderstood him. For everyone: As for...
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    Christianity VS Islam - who started the battle?

    How about a quote from the Qur'an on this, if you are so set on believing that. There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. (Surah 2:256) You might counter with the jihad, but look at the introduction to the passage many consider as calling for jihad: Fight in the way of...
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