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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    I would be glad to explain this. Thanks for asking. But I wish you would include references, for you are paraphrasing and I don’t think we believe that the Bible references anything in the Book of Mormon. It is true, however, that Mormons believe that Jesus became the great I AM because of...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    The quoting of these scriptures is admirable sentiment, but I’m not sure what point you are trying to make in reference to this discussion. All Mormons hold all these verses in very high esteem.
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    Other Gods/gods?

    Really. How do you know?
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    I have been working two jobs since just before this post and did not notice it. Here is my response. The Mormon Christ you describe here does not conflict in any way with the Biblical Christ you also describe. They are completely compatible as I see it. I have a hard time seeing how anyone...
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    Other Gods/gods?

    I would have to agree with this idea. But how do you explain the person who is never quite reached by the Christian message? Why do you think prevenient grace failed to lead that person to their savior in this life?
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    Other Gods/gods?

    Whether you call it conscience or just the Light of Christ, would you agree that all non-Christians are influenced by Christ without realizing the source?
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    Other Gods/gods?

    My question was referring to those not yet introduced to the Bible as Christians know it. These verses you are quoting are only directed to those in the know of the God of Israel, who are the ones to be held accountable for responding to these commandments. And my proposition does not contradict...
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    Other Gods/gods?

    But doesn’t the light from Christ which lighteth every man have some influence one’s conscience? Could not this pure light be considered the core essence of the conscience of every human?
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    Other Gods/gods?

    We learn in John chapter 1 that in Jesus Christ was life, and that life was the light of men. This light was the true light which LIGHTETH EVERY MAN THAT COMETH INTO THE WORLD. The common term used in the world to describe this light we all share is conscience. I think we all would agree that...
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    Please excuse my posting of blasphemy

    Ahh, so you are Calvinist. That explains a lot. But I am not attempting to derail anything. I was merely adding context to your statement that your belief of there being no partnership between humans and Christ is a universal Christian belief. I was simply pointing out that your position is not...
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    Please excuse my posting of blasphemy

    It sheds more light on your version of Christianity, which must be either Calvinism or Universalism. Which one is it?
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    Please excuse my posting of blasphemy

    2 Nephi 10:24 If you knew and understood the rest of the Book of Mormon you would realize that one can only be reconciled unto God through His grace. Grace and faith always come first in the Book of Mormon. 2 Nephi 25:23 Notice that believing in Christ and being reconciled to God are...
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    Please excuse my posting of blasphemy

    I like your perspective here. A pretty good explanation, but it seems to miss the fact that Paul was describing different degrees of glory of resurrected bodies. I’m not sure where the number seven comes from. I can’t think of that number being used in any LDS theology about the...
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    Please excuse my posting of blasphemy

    Attacking the Bible? Where did you get that from. To me there is no contradiction at all between the two verses. Martin Luther, however, was so caught up in a misunderstanding of Paul's writings that he believed the Book of James to be blatantly contradictory to the point that James should not...
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    Please excuse my posting of blasphemy

    If these verses were found in the Bible, I’m sure you would figure out a way to show that they are very much compatible with the teachings of Paul. It really isn’t hard. Actually I think it would be much more difficult to reconcile James 2:24 with Eph. 2:8, than these verses from the Book of...
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    Please excuse my posting of blasphemy

    What I was trying to point out is that Brigham is not referring to salvation, but rather that Christ’s atonement does not prevent us from the suffering in the flesh, or as a result of sin while in these mortal bodies of flesh and blood. A good description of Mormon doctrine. Also authentic...
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    Please excuse my posting of blasphemy

    Deborah13, I have been wanting to respond to this post, but have been distracted. I appreciate the way your comments are always respectful and rational. If you were to ask the average Mormon what they thought of the doctrine of blood atonement, they would either not know what you were...
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    Please excuse my posting of blasphemy

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    Please excuse my posting of blasphemy

    You are forgetting that most of the preachers of that day were saying essentially the same thing about all the rest of Christianity compared to their own brand. What makes Joseph’s quote of Jesus so much more profound and cutting is that it was delivered by Jesus Himself. Joseph did not claim...
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    Please excuse my posting of blasphemy

    If every Christian religion agreed on everything about Jesus and what He taught, there would be only one denomination. Of course there are differences and therefore one could say different versions of Christ. The same could be said about comparisons between any two mainstream Christian churches...
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