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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    I have already offered to answer these challenges one by one in a debate or separate thread. I have also given you references to sites that will answer all of these challenges. Such challenges are off topic to this particular thread. Again, your example here for evidence of the truth of your...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    The way I understand these scriptures is that they testify that Paul was an authentic representative of Jesus Christ in preaching His gospel. I don’t see anything in these verses that says he had any more authority or any more of the gospel than any other true apostle or prophet of Jesus...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    It is quite obvious how you feel about the founders of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Now show the fruits you said must accompany this sort of foundation. Show how the fruits that grow from the lives of the majority of the followers of these corrupt men confirm your conclusions.
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    Well that is what I have always felt. But your statement here only emphasizes the legitimacy of my question. Why should we base our standards on the sayings of Paul rather than those of Jesus or any other apostle? Why is he singled out above any other?
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    If you take isolated examples from anyone's life, without considering the whole of their life, you can make them look like whatever you want them to look like. That is exactly what is going on here. Any open minded person who is willing to examine ALL the evidence can come to no other possible...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    You are completely missing the point. Christ said we should rely on fruits, not malicious gossip to determine true prophets. You are accepting what is presented from one side of the argument blindly before considering the other side. You haven't even considered the fruits to see if your...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    And as bitter as Cowdery became, he later repented and came back to the church. Even durring his disaffection from the church he never denied his testimony of seeing the angels with Joseph Smith or seeing the gold plates. I can't think of a more convincing testimony. These other stories are...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    If you refuse to see the things I referred to, which are so obvious, what more can I say. You will believe what you want regardless of any evidence to the contrary.
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    Again, you are trusting the wrong sources. When you really look into each of these charges with an open mind, giving each side equal time, you will find that none of the Mormon prophets disobeyed any of these commandments. And this is still off topic.
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    I think this last question is the most important one to ponder. I have heard stuff like this all of my adult life, yet my intelectual as well as spiritual conviction continues to grow. The Mormons are one of the most well educated of all Christendom and unlike others, we get more religious with...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    Wow. Where do I start. First of all, this is an extreme example of completely leaving the topic of this thread, so I will not attempt to answer each of these challenges here. If you want to go to the one on one debate forum I am willing to cover these there one at a time. I understand why you...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    I have, so I guess we'll just have to disagree on this one.
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    Okay. I'm confused. How does this statement about what Brigham taught indicate that he was justifying committing murder? To me, anyone who could immagine such a motive from this simple statement has an issue with evil thoughts themselves. I didn't say anything about killing anyone. If a person...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    Of course you see it that way. You believe he was saved from an evil belief system to the belief system that agrees with yours. From my perspective it is just the opposite. But the reality is that this illustrates a very shallow caring for my soul. A deeper caring for my soul would require him...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    Thanks for finding these quotes. They get us a little closer to the spirit of the doctrine and nullify the exaggerated stories many have imagined. I have no problem with what you have quoted here. They show how this is in harmony with the Bible. The first quote here by Brigham shows that he does...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    I really do appreciate your concern for my welfare. I can use all the prayers I can get. But is this all you can do to answer my response in post #57 to your last post. How disappointing. I answered every one of your ideas point by point. I was really looking forward to a similar response from...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    There are so few actual facts that are well established, all I need to do is remind you of them to show how much imagination is required to come to the conclusions you want us to agree with you on. The following are all the actual facts that I can come up with related to this case: A black...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    So where in this BofM scripture does it criticise “Bible believers� You keep saying this, but it is an obvious false statement that creates another one of your straw men. It strongly infers that the Book of Mormon is against people believing in the Bible, which is just the opposite of...
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