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I will let Bruce Leiter answer for himself there, Rodger, but speaking for myself, all of the above is innate. Those questions are always present in the mind without having to even be conscious of them. It's part of discernment IMO, in that your radar is up already in seeking to interpret the...

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Because I know what he's saying, Walpole. He's completely free to speak for himself. I'm free to moderate, yes? The sarcasm was uncalled for. Blessings, - H

By "sooner or later" he meant in Heaven. Sarcasm uncalled for. Moderator's note: Any more nasty-spirited comments in this thread will be met with time off.

So is this thread supposed to be like Redneck humor, or what? I think most of it stems from boredom.

Maybe the Lord leaves things up to us because love isn't love if you force someone to do it. Maybe He wants to be loved by people who freely did of their own free will. Would you wish to be loved only by those - your children, your wife, your parents, etc - whom you had to force to love you, or...

Yes He does, and it's a good thing. We are all just working towards where He wants us all to get, in knowledge, in virtue, in faith, in obedience. Thank Heavens He's merciful to us all. :Agsm

I was too, LoL. Championships often come down to motivation, and I thought they were up for making something happen that has never happened in the history of the NFL before. Not the case. The Eagles were WAY more motivated to win that game. It was a slaughter, LoL.

He's argued this position before, which is why I sad it is certainly up for debate. Just keep it civil please (and that means everyone).

LoL. I think his argument is with swearing vows after the advent of Christ's teaching on the subject, which is certainly up for debate. Moderator's Note: This forum no longer tolerates heated divisiveness. Those engaging in it will be removed from threads like this, and if necessary stronger...

On that we agree. I suppose some things are left open to interpretation like this because it forces us all to draw closer to Him for the truth, if only for our own selves where we are in the Christian Faith. The OP for this thread was not anything I understood in my walk early on. It was only...

I think you are reading too much in, and here is why. There is a use by Paul of τέλειον in the neuter where it is paired with the neuter noun θέλημα, meaning "will" as in the will of God. Don’t be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may prove...