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A man made organization can never be the one church Christ established back on Pentecost 200 years ago that Christ died for and is the head of. You are still trying to create a multiplicity of churchES when there is just ONE church that goes by ONE faith. One = one.

More specifically, I am saying there is a difference in the ONE church and man made organizations that are not part of the one church. one body.

There are arguments against the necessity of water baptism in being saved but they are not logical, biblical though. Earlier I saw where you tried and use the old "thief argument" against the necessity of water baptism and that argument is not based on the bible/logic.

Yes, the bible condemns the idea of denominationalism. The bible teaches Christ established one church that goes by one faith, (Eph 4:5) that is to have one mind (Phil 1:27; Rom 15:6); walk by the same rule (Phil 3:16), one way to be saved. Yet denominationalism denies all this. They they...

This is why God will have a day of judgment to separate the ones that followed His word from those that rejected it. The bible is to clear on the fact water baptism is necessary so much so I have never seen a biblical, logical argument against it. AS the thief is a not a biblical logical...

The bible does not teach this. ONE = ONE. Eph 4:5 does not say one God made up of many different gods no more than it says one body made up of many different bodies. The bible condemns the man made idea of denominationalism. ALso the fact they all contradict each other is proof they cannot...

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Salvation is determined by the bible. Some do not like it requires water baptism, why is that? It does not fit their preconceived ideas just as those in Acts 7 when they had the truth preached to them by Stephen, what he preached did not fit their preconceived ideas of Judaism and Stephens'...

The one church Christ establish back in the first century is not a man made denomination. You still reject there is just ONE body that goes by ONE faith I obeyed the gospel Does not Calvinistic election claim those that God chose can never be unchosen or those not chosen can never become chosen?

If other men were born with it, so was Christ else those verses are not true. It cannot be true that man is born with a sin/sin nature and at the same time Christ was made like men, had the same weakness, infirmities and temptations as man yet not born with a sin nature. Christ could never...

Yes I do. I can choose to have faith or not when I hear the word Romans 10:17. Believing is a personal choice--some choose to believe what they hear others choose not to..... some people like carrots others do not.....some people like Mozart others do not. None of this is predetermined but...

No such thing exists in the bible. The bible speaks of just ONE church established by Christ, that Christ died for and that Christ is the head of ONE, not 3,987 churches or 22,964 churches but ONE church. Nothing was taken out of context. If one does not obey the gospel he will be lost...

Yes, God has predetermined a group called Christian-believers to be saved and man uses his free will to choose to be in that group or not. God never unconditionally predetermined certain individual to be saved or lost apart from man's free will. If before the world began, God predetermined for...

My first point in an earlier post of my is John said sin is transgression of the law. This makes the idea of original sin impossible. For a newly conceived fetus to be a sinner, it must have committed a transgression when it cannot. Therefore no transgression was committed at conception, no...

It is not possible for Calvinistic predestination and free will to both at work at the same time. It is possible for Biblical predestination and free will to exist and work at the same time though.

So you agree there are not many churches and many faiths and every religious organization is not of that one body not going by that one faith. If there are 30,000 organizations then 29,999 are lost for 30,000 does not equal the one body. The gospel requires obedience 2 Thessalonians 1:8...

--But no verse teaches original sin much less original sin is passed though the father. --A supposed proof text for original sin, Psa 51:5, only mentions the mother. If David was born a sinner then he must have gotten it thru his mother. --if Christ was not born with sin/sin nature, then...

An accountable adult is in and remains in a state of unrighteousness and disobedience, he is 'dead' as you said and remains dead/lost until he decides to do righteousness/obey THEN God saves. Again, you cannot show a single example of anyone under the NT gospel that God saved while that person...

How many is one? Is it a 'cult thing' to think 1=1? Ephesians 4:4-5 "There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord, one faith, one baptism," 2 Corinthians 11:2 "For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one...

That is backwards from how the bible has it. One must first obey God's will then God saves. Not one example under the NT gospel where God saved anyone while they remained impenitent in their disobedience to God's will. Romans 6:17-18, note the order of events: 1) servants of unrighteousness...