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"But when these things begin to happen, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near." (Luk 21:28 LITV)

I do understand what you are postulating, but not why; because . . . . . . they are not identical. Here is how they are different: - one harvest is by Jesus, the Son of Man, in whose hand is a sickle (Rev 14:14-15) swung over [Gk. επι] the earth (Rev 14:16). vs - another harvest is by an angel...

I think we are about to enter into the last 3-1/2 years of the Tribulation. Whether or not Daniel's 70th week of years [the final week of 7 years] are contiguous years, I am not sure. Perhaps the first 3-1/2 years of that week occurred during Christ's public ministry [having begun after a Feast...

In your understanding, has this - "They were resurrected when the 7th trumpet of Rev 11 sounded" - already occurred, or is yet to occur in the future?

I base that view upon many Scriptures, one being the reference to the 2300 days in post #75. The timing of end time events as I understand them 'seems' to support my view. When I contemplate those events, I consider several time periods mentioned in the Scriptures, such as: - two time periods...

I said this: Malachi, Enough of you misquoting my posts. I never said the wheat harvest was in Rev 14. I was, and am, equating the wheat harvest in Matthew with the first harvest mentioned in Rev 14:15-16; which differs from a second harvest mentioned in Rev 14:17-19, and the destruction of...

I agree that Christians will not be the object of God's wrath, and have never said otherwise. However, Christians will be here on earth during the tribulation period, and may witness God's wrath from a distance. In my understanding, the Church will be raptured on the Feast of Trumpets; then 10...

Malachi, Enough of you misquoting my posts. I never said the wheat harvest was in Rev 14. I was, and am, equating the wheat harvest in Matthew with the first harvest mentioned in Rev 14:15-16; which differs from a second harvest mentioned in Rev 14:17-19, and the destruction of that second...

You are asking 'How do I know that?' I want to offer the following in support of the Rapture occurring on a Feast of Trumpets. "Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the...

I have brought the Rapture into the context of Rev 14 in my post #6, with supporting Scripture and my understanding of it. Now . . . you may refute what I have said with Scriptures and your reasoning. You say "Its impossible . . ." Now, begin the proof that it is impossible to associate the...

I am drawing [and have drawn] a distinction between the wheat harvest and the grape harvest. They are not the same, and I have not said otherwise. I am not up the tree you are barking at. Please actually read what I have posted.

The Feast of Trumpets always occurs on the 1st day of the seventh month of each Hebrew year. I believe the Rapture of the Church occurs on that day, on the Feast of Trumpets, as I believe that Feast foretells Christ's Rapture of the Church. Do you disagree with anything I've said in this post?

You keep saying that, but have yet to offer proof supporting a pre-trib Rapture. Read my posts. I am careful to say 'I think" this or that; but along with it I am offering some form of explanation. Where are your explanation of your view? The word "Church" may not be in these verses, but the...

I said this: There are 2 events of reaping: 1. Reaping of the Wheat: "And the One sitting on the cloud thrust His sickle onto [επι - over] the earth, and the earth was reaped." (Rev 14:16LITV). επι [over] seems to match up with Christians meeting the LORD in the air, as opposed to εις [into] in...

You are speaking of another's conjecture, yet you do not give a supporting reason as to why you view these things the way you do. Though I must say, I have read some great apologies and arguments from you in these forums. As I know you are able, please support your claims here with other texts...

What I stated regarding Rev 14:14-16 supports the Rapture. Christ is seen in the clouds, of which Luke (Lk 21:27) and Matthew (Mt 24:30, 26:67) spoke. It was Christ's hour to reap, because His harvest was ripe. His harvest is the wheat spoken of in Mat 13:30, and referred to as a dried crop to...

"grave" violence - That's a good pun! 2 reapings are noted in Rev 14, one in Rev 14:15-16, and a second in Rev 14:17-20. There are at least a couple of differences in these two separate events: - the first reaping is "over [epi] the earth" Rev 14:16; where the second reaping is "into [eis] the...

"But we know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those within the Law, so that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world be under judgment to God." (Rom 3:19 LITV). Are NT Christians (with)in the Law? I think not. We have something better that speaks to us, the One who fulfilled the...

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Rather, the deeper meaning is that the LORD is concerned that His ministers receive their wages for the office to which they have been appointed.