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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    Distasteful? Offensive? Got over those things long ago. I have little doubt Mormons don't believe all the things I mentioned. I seriously doubt any one religion does to tell the truth. But I am glad to see you attest to what you believe and don't believe. When we speak of who Christ is its...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    "Our most obvious common ground is the Bible. " Well, I think that's a matter of opinion. Gordon B Hinckley, the previous Mormon prophet, stated at a conference at the "new" conference center across the street from the Mormon temple (Watched it being built. Passed that place every day on the...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    It's called "Progressive Revelation". At least that's what it was called when I lived there. Example: Polygamy. To attain statehood Utah had to give up polygamy in 1890. Wouldn't you know shortly after a revelation from God directed them away from the practice, but not the belief. We on earth...
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    Immovable * vs unstopable *

    :rofl Anyway, a thought. X-rays can pass through solid objects and some particles are not hindered if the density of the material in it's path isn't great... like radiation to things with less density than lead. So the question becomes can a particle be small enough to pass through anything...
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    Space Travel

    I must agree to a point. But the days of fashioning a contraption such as an airplane or an automobile to bring in a new era of technology in one's garage is over. The technology we are talking about requires huge sums of money and the collective will of the people to achieve. Privatization of...
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    Space Travel

    According to accounts some 40 years ago we were supposed to have been overcrowded already. And according to Popular Mechanics we were to be flying instead of using the automobile 13 years ago. But you do get very close to a point I think you may have been trying to make. Will we have the...
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    This Is Crazy

    Obama's got some 'splainin' to do. He can't say he knew nothing about this, or that this is an atrocity perpetrated by a couple rogue NSA agents in Cincinnati to world leaders. And he can't blame Bush since he's been at the helm for over 4 years. He knew of PRISM and allowed the abuse of the...
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    This Is Crazy

    The EU is not happy. I believe Obama has international meetings Thursday and Friday to discuss the NSAs PRISM program. http://m.guardiannews.com/world/2013/jun/10/obama-pressured-explain-nsa-surveillance Officials in European capitals demanded immediate answers from their US counterparts and...
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    This Is Crazy

    European leaders to raise NSA program with US officials http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/06/10/european-leaders-to-raise-nsa-program-with-us-officials/ BRUSSELS – Senior European Union officials will question their American counterparts about previously undisclosed U.S. surveillance...
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    This Is Crazy

    At one time authorities needed a solid suspicion a crime was committed before tapping into personal/private info such as tapping a phone or seizing evidence within a home. But the argument we're getting from the NSA and the WH is that they need that info in case someone is suspected of criminal...
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    This Is Crazy

    This is a global issue. Every country, every province, every territory can be targeted in the spirit of "patrolling the highways". I would think they should have the right to participate or not. If a European country decides to patrol it's own communications webs that's up to them. If not then...
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    This Is Crazy

    NSA whistle-blower who sought to 'inform the public' in surveillance leak faces jail http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/10/report-nsa-contract-worker-is-surveillance-source/ The source of the bombshell leaks about the U.S. government gathering information on billions of phone calls and...
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    Immovable * vs unstopable *

    Eventually the unstoppable orbits the unmovable? :shrug If a turtle loses his shell is he naked or homeless?
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    This Is Crazy

    Through the Prism: Let government make its case for data mining http://www.kansascity.com/2013/06/07/4278758/through-the-prism-let-government.html The most troubling aspect of the government data dragnet is the potential for abuse. Searching for patterns that might reveal terror networks is...
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    This Is Crazy

    The IRS was used against citizens wanting to make their voices heard. Could PRISM be used to eavesdrop on political opponents' communications? If so it would make Watergate look insignificant.
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    This Is Crazy

    Rewind time a bit. Well, I really don't care about planned parenthood performing abortions in cases of rape or if the mother's health is in jeopardy. No big deal. Now, fast forward to the present. Abortion is now used as a means of birth control. These things are planted. The seeds look...
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    This Is Crazy

    Who cares? OK, PM me the conversations/messages you've had in the past few days. I promise not to leak anything.
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    The Meaning Of Justified

    Works-centered religions like Mormonism, Islam, Hinduism and just about every other religion rely on what a person does. Do this, do that ... gain your presence with The Father. What happens if I fail? Do I need to start over crucifying Christ once again? Or did He die for our sins once and for...
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    sodom and gomorrah were bombed - not burnt

    These "scientific accounts" about Sodom and Gomorrah ignore another biblical statement: Gen 19:26 But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt. Well, that's not really possible is it? I mean, nobody has ever turned into salt. Maybe it just looked like salt...
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    sodom and gomorrah were bombed - not burnt

    It was on the history channel and yes, a couple years ago. The film claimed it had something to do with the height of the cot or bed one slept on then proceeded with some form of toxic gas (possibly from a volcano nearby) that hung close to the floor. Where they got the idea the older had higher...
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