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Jesus was alive and on earth and under the OT law. So forgiveness under the OT law was in promise looking to when Christ did die and shed His blood.

---I have shown you verses where Christ Himself and an inspired Paul called Psalms (and isaiah) "law" and your bias causes you to reject it. I just read the verses again and they still call Psalms law and no man can change that. ---No verse says Christ took all the OT out of the way except for...

At the time of King James 'wine' would have been the appropriate word since wine was used as a generic word for grape juice all the way up till at least the 1950's in English dictionaries. The Bible does condemn social drinking (from post #189): Eph 5:18 "And be not drunk with wine, wherein is...

The entire OT is "law" and no one has shown otherwise. Again Rom 3:10-19 Paul cites Psalms and Isaiah calling both "law". Lk 24:44 mentions the law of Moses, prophets and Psalms. Again Paul called Psalms prophet Isaiah Law. Lk 16:16 refers to the OT as the law and prophests. Psalms was not...

??? The point remains Jesus (and Paul Rom 3:10-18) cite Psalms and call Psalms 'law'.

--It has not been shown from the NT that God has authorized NT Christians to use IM. Thus you continue in vain to find justification for IM from the OT. --IM does not have to be specifically forbidden for it to be wrong. --Christmas/Easter have no NT authorization so where do men get the...

The verses you cite show Christ took ALL the OT out of the way not by destroying it but took it all out of the way by fulfilling it..fulfill meaning to end, cease. Therefore nothing from the OT authorizes how NT Christians are to worship. Psalms does not justify/authorize the use of IM in the...

Heb 2:1-3 warned about drifting away Heb 3:12-13 warned about departing from God let their heart become hardened Heb 4:1 warned about falling short of that rest Heb 6 warned about falling into a state where it would be impossible to repent.

The church was prophesied about in the OT and came to fruition in Acts 2 at Pentecost.

Christ's blood that takes away sin was not shed until He died on the cross THEN sins could be taken away (Heb 9:26-28). Therefore the forgiveness under the OT law was in promise looking to the cross and Christ's shed blood. Rev 13:8 God's plan in redeeming man from His sins was devised and...

I understand there was forgiveness under the OT law. My point has been that the forgiveness under the OT law was in promise looking toward the day Christ died and shed His blood, then the sins of those who lived under the OT law were forgiven in reality.

Rom 6:3 baptized into Christ. The one baptism of Eph 4:4-5 is Christ's human administered water baptism of the great commission that lasts till the end of time.

1 Cor 12:13 is water baptism, as Paul himself water baptized some of the Corinthians, 1 Cor 1:14,16. The Holy Spirit does not baptize men Himself but baptizes by giving His authority to disciples to water baptize men. Jn 4:1-2 "When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that...

Hi, Thank you for the nice words. The Bible does not give the specific sin(s) Nadab and Abjhu committed but we do not they did what God commanded them not. Yourself and Coffman can give reasonable explanations to the sin(s) they committed and I could not say you and Coffman are both wrong or...

The reason I bring up Christmas/Easter is because there is no Divine authorization for them as there is none for IM. So my argument is not solely about IM but more so about where does man get his authorization from to worship God. From himself? From God? Col 3:17 "And whatsoever ye do in...

Not all uses of the word "wine" in the Bible refers to fermented, intoxicating wine. Context must determine that. Yet many still assume "wine" always refers to fermented wine when it clearly does not. No one can prove the 'wine' Jesus made was the intoxicating kind, even if their life...

Timothy was to add water to wine thereby water down, dilute the alcoholic content so it would not have an intoxicating effect. Paul is giving medicinal uses not providing acceptance to social drinking. Again, in Eph 5:18 the verb 'drunk' is an inceptive verb showing drunkenness is a process...

--Christ shed His blood in His death Jn 19:34 --Christ's blood is what washes away sins Rev 1:5 --Therefore man must have access into the death of Christ where Christ shed His blood that washes away sins. Rom 6:1-7 in water baptism one is baptized into Christ's death where then and only then His...

And my point has been and continues to be that forgiveness under the OT law BEFORE Christ shed His blood was in promise looking toward the day Christ shed His blood. When Christ finally did shed His blood then the promise was realized, fulfilled and their sins were then forgiven in whole. But...

They had the promise of salvation, the promise of forgiveness as long as they remained faithful. For those that did remain faithful unto death then that promise was fulfilled when Christ did die. None could have their sins removed BEFORE Christ died, NONE could have been redeemed BEFORE Christ...