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My point has been those OT characters had to have a price to be paid for redemption of their sins (Heb 9:15) and that came in the form of Christ dying on the cross. Obviously Christ did not die during the lives of Noah, Abraham, David, etc which means the forgiveness of their sins was in...

Not a single verse says such. Again there is ONE BAPTISM in effect today (Eph 4:4-5) that one being the human administered water baptism of Christ's great commission that saves, that is commanded, that is for all nations/creature, that is to be taught, that lasts till the end of time, Mt...

The blood of Christ could not take away the sins of those OT characters if that blood had not yet been shed... no matter how much faith they had. So the forgiveness of sins under the OT was in promise looking toward the day Christ would shed His blood. Those that had an obedient faith THEN had...

They had ways to keep fermentation from occurring. I have read, for example, they could put grape juice in a sealed container and lower that container to a bottom of a well or body of water with a rope to keep it cool and prevent fermentation. I have also read they could boil grape juice...

Psalms is part of the law of Moses and has no binding effect today for Christians. Again, no one can go to another religion as Judiasm to determine how NT Christians are to worship. Paul in Rom 7:1-6 says it is sinful to go back and try and keep the OT law and NT at the same time comparing it...

1 Tim 5:23 "Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities." Paul is not LITERALLY telling Timothy to not drink water anymore but a 'not-but' elliptical statement telling Timothy to put more emphasis on mixing water with wine over drinking water...

The word "wine" as used in the KJC does NOT always mean fermented wine, Isa 65:8; Joel 2:24. "Wine" in these verses refers to fresh grape juice. You incorrectly assuming the word 'wine' only refers to fermented wine. One does not even have to go back hundreds of years to King James but a few...

Sins are washed away by the blood of Christ, Rev 1:5. So how could sins of those OT characters be forgiven/washed away by Christ's blood when Christ's blood had not yet been shed? Again, their sins were forgiven in promise based upon the certainty of Christ dying and shedding His blood in the...

God forgave sins of those under the OT. But how could their sins be washed away by the blood of Christ when that blood had not yet been shed? Again, God forgave sins of those under the OT yet AT THE SAME TIME the blood of bulls and goats could not take away sins (Heb 10:1-4) and those under...

Do you believe a person is righteous because of his actions or because of their faith in Christ ? It's not an "or" question because faith is an action, it is something done, it is obedience. Faith is not just a mental assent of the mind, it is not just mentally acknowledgment of certain facts...

Matt 3:11 only Christ could baptize men with the Holy Spirit. And by the Lord baptizing Jews (Apostles) in Acts 2 and Gentiles (Cornelius) in Acts 10 than ;all flesh' was baptized with the Holy Spirit fulfilling ending Joel's prophecy. No one today is baptized with the Holy Spirit although...

I have said those OT characters sins were forgiven...but forgiven in promised based upon the certainty of Christ dying and shed his blood. I agree the OT characters sins were forgiven but at the same time Heb 10:1-4 that says blood of bulls and goats does NOT take away sin must also be taken...

Where does the Bible say those OT characters were 'damned"???? Again, under the OT law the blood of bulls and goats could not take away sin, that took the blood of Christ. As long as they offered the sacrifices under the OT law their sins were rolled forward a year and every year there was a...

But not until Christ shed His blood could sins be taken completely away. (See post #139 for more detail)

These events you cite occurred BEFORE Christ died and shed His blood. John's baptism is said to remit sins (Mk 1:4) though it took place BEFORE Christ shed His blood. And Heb 9:22 says "without the shedding of blood there is no remission". So how can it be said that John's baptism remitted...

--Knowing the exact sins they committed is not the issue. It is clear they what they did was sin, transgressing God's law (1 Jn 3:4) in doing what the Lord commanded not. --You have not proven Coffman to be wrong. You just gave me your opinion on the subject. Lev 1:9 "Do not drink wine nor...

But no one can be saved while in sin. Therefore it took Christ's blood to take away sin so men could then stand justified before God. If those OT characters could be saved apart from the blood of Christ, then why can't men today also be saved apart from the blood of Christ then Christ died in...

Acts 19 is not baptism with the Holy Ghost. Paul laid hands upon them is not baptism with the HS. Mt 2:11 just Christ administers baptism with the HS not any man. Secondly, the context does not call it baptism with the HS. You are calling it something the Bible does not. Baptism with the HS...

Lev 10:1 "And Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, took either of them his censer, and put fire therein, and put incense thereon, and offered strange fire before the LORD, which he commanded them not. And there went out fire from the LORD, and devoured them, and they died before the LORD."...

Christ took away the OT law (Col 2:14) replacing it with His NT law making a change in law (Heb 7:12). Justification, authorization for IM and Christmas/Easter must be found within the NT. One cannot go back to the OT law for that justification/authorization (Rom 7:8-9)..one cannot go to...