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Since there is such a thing as an apostate and falling, OSAS cannot be true, correct?

Adam Clarke on Heb 4:1 and 'seem': Lest any of us should actually come short of it; i.e. miss it. See the note on the verb δοκειν, to seem, Luke 8:18; Luke 8:18 KJV "Take heed therefore how ye hear: for whosoever hath, to him shall be given; and whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken even...

Heb 2:1 "Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip." The "we" is a reference to those Hebrew Christians and includes the writer of Hebrews (probably Paul) also includes himself in this "we". (Paul said of himself...

Repentance therefore makes salvation CONDITIONAL and not UNconditional as OSAS wrongly claims.

According to you, a person can be a thief and still be saved. But that idea contradicts verses as 1 Cor 6:10 that says thieves SHALL NOT inherit the kingdom of God...no exceptions. I have people, (those that believe in OSAS), to personally steal from me before. I have complained to other...

The context the Lord opened her heart by His word that was spoken to Lydia by Paul...."And on the sabbath we went out of the city by a river side, where prayer was wont to be made; and we sat down, and spake unto the women which resorted thither. And a certain woman named Lydia, a seller of...

I agree that no Christian possess eternal life in this life but conditionally possesses the promise of eternal life and can lose that promise. If OSAS were true, then there can be no such thing as an apostate, no such thing as falling.

"No condemnation" is conditionally found "in Christ". There is condemnation to those that fall away from Christ. Question: Can a Christian steal from his neighbor, from his creditors, etc and still be saved?

--The purpose of baptism is 'for the remission of sins" Acts 2:38. Children have no sins to be remitted. --from the logical sequence of events of Mk 16:16 one must have the mental capacity to believe BEFORE being baptized which infants do not. Infants have not even develop language skills to...

Men have been given free will by God to use. Those in Acts 2 chose to believe what they heard while those in Acts 7 chose not to believe. It is God's preceptive will that shows God desires men use their free will to choose to obey (Jesus would) but men can choose to not obey (Jews would not)...

You posted "those who believe cannot return to unbelief if you truly believe" Then why all the verses that warn the Christian about falling into unbelief if such were not possible? The book of Hebrews for example is filled with warnings to Hebrew Christians about becoming apostates...

No Bible verse supports this idea. The Bible teaches predestination but NOT the Calvinistic idea of predestination. The Bible shows God predestined a group (called Christian) and those men that choose to obey Christ become part of this foreknown, predestined group.

Christians in this life have the promise of eternal life (2 Jn 2:25). This promise is conditional upon the Christian remaining faithful, obedient to Christ. The righteous person has this promise but can lose it by becoming unfaithful. One either possesses this promise or not. The idea that...

God does not choose for men which ones will be lost or saved. There is no contradiction.

Matt 24:1-2 specifically speaks of the destruction of Jerusalem which did happen in about 70AD. Those that endured (Mt 24:9-13) would be the ones to escape. I think it was Josephus who said all Christians did escape this destruction of Jerusalem by the Roman army. Again, this being symbolic...

One cannot 'fall' into unbelief if he was always in unbelief. One cannot 'hold fast' to what he never really possessed.

Post #1031. the following statement was made "Those who turn away from God were never His own to begin with as they only give lip service to the Lord, but truly do not have Him in their heart or else they would not turn away." Eze 3:20-21 does show a saved person can turn away from God...

Water baptism is how one is baptized into Christ Gal 3:27. Gal 3:26 "For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus." Gal 3:27 "For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ." It takes faith to be in Christ per v26. It takes baptism to be in Christ per...

Jesus does not baptize anyone today with the Holy Ghost. Men today submit to water baptism, as commanded by God, for remission of sins. The one baptism of Eph 4:4-5.

Mt 24:13 the context is about Jerusalem being under siege and destroyed by the Roman army 70AD. Those Christians in Jerusalem at the time those signs occurred before the siege, if they maintained their faith/endured, they escaped the destruction. Symbolic of escaping the wrath of God by...