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    translation idolatry vs worshiping Christ

    Mujahid Abdullah wrote: Hi Mujahid, The 'hurt' I don't understand. It is freedom of speech which is regarded as a basic human right in the western world. In dictatorships freedom of speech is the first human right to go - the loss of other rights follow and life becomes unbearable. It is a...
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    contradiction

    Hi NinaMMitchell, Some say 'the Bible is completely without error'. More would probably say that 'in matters of doctrine and faith the bible is completely without error.' Of course the scriptures would also have to be interpreted correctly for this to be true at a practical level...
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    translation idolatry vs worshiping Christ

    Hi Mujahid Abdullah, If anything was lost it would be a poor translation. Do you have examples of what you are referring to?
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    Different Bibles

    Hi all, The differences start with the Greek New Testament the translations are based upon. There are interlinears which give the Greek and underneath or on top the translation. This gives an additional sense of what the Greek says and how it has been translated. Not sure if all translations...
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    translation idolatry vs worshiping Christ

    JamesG wrote: Some are fragments and others are more extensive - these are usually papyri number P1 to P75. The dating of these is the closest we get to the autographs. There is a good summary in www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categories_of ... anuscripts Three of the earliest complete or...
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    Does day of Christ ressurection tell us to worship on Sunday

    Hi Hobie, The day of the resurrection would be the first day of the new creation... Jesus is the firstborn of the new creation! It was also, I believe, important to end the old creation with Jesus buried in the tomb on a Sabbath day thus spelling the end of the old creation. The Sabbath by...
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    translation idolatry vs worshiping Christ

    Hi JamesG, Fair enough. Seems like you met some top brass! Here are a few comments about where I am coming from... Since I was not born in an English speaking country - I am comfortable with viewing English as but one of many major and minor world languages. True enough - as a language group...
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    translation idolatry vs worshiping Christ

    Hi JamesG, Will have to get back to you in more detail and perhaps break up the potential discussion into smaller parts. Let me just say 'people move in movements' and you seem to have moved in the KJV only movement. Are you still part of it? take care
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    translation idolatry vs worshiping Christ

    hi JamesG, Needtotalk maybe making an observation that many others have made. The following article, written more than a century ago, captures what many of us have observed and yet failed to understand and articulate. The article is about 'bibliolatry' written by Adolph Saphir 1831-91. For...
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    Christians walking in the flesh

    Hi Drew, That's a very interesting point. At this stage I am inclined to say yes though not without qualification. It has to do the covenant obligations, both God's and man's, when man breaks the covenant of grace in Christ by sining and therefore walking in the flesh. If we consider Adam...
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    National Israel is cursed forever !

    dialogue?
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    National Israel is cursed forever !

    Hi GodspromisesRyes, 'Israel is the church' won't sit well with replacement theology. On the basis of Acts 7:37,38 those assembled at Mt Sinai Luke calls 'the church in the wilderness' with (we could say) Moses being a type of Christ. That's fine. The perspective that the church is older...
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    Christians walking in the flesh

    Hi needtotalk, Yes if love departed from the Apostle Paul in any of his dealings with the churches - walking in the flesh would make an enterance. That you mention the Coritnthian church is interesting because what would be an otherwise abstract discussion - can be seen in the day to day life...
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    Christians walking in the flesh

    Hi Stephanus, Thanks for your comments. Yes Romans 8 is a good source for teaching as well as other chapters. Hopefully this tread, which focuses on Christians walking in the flesh, will be a profitable discussion for all concerned. When you say 'we can't live without sin' are you saying...
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    Christians walking in the flesh

    Adullam wrote: Sorry to say it, and I wish it were otherwise - what you have said is true. I believe that also and I don't exclude myself from the verdict. Excuses are made left, right and center. If I remain a sinner all the days of my life and Jesus said : anyone who sins is a slave of...
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    National Israel is cursed forever !

    Hi GodspromisesRyes, Replacement theology would probably have varying expressions - I would put it like this - the Chruch replaces Israel - hence the word replacement. Thus Israel after Christ's ascension in replacement theology is just like any other nation on the face of the earth. If this...
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    Christians walking in the flesh

    OP Christians walking in the flesh One of the issues that has interested me and seen often enough in recent treads is: What is the status and condition of a Christian who walks in the flesh? Here are some of questions/comments on this: 1. I would argue that we cannot be in Adam and in...
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    Did we live as spirits before the earth was created?

    Hi, add Mormons to that list and the serpent seed theory.
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    Did we live as spirits before the earth was created?

    mamre wrote: When the scriptures speak of a new heavens and a new earth -- we can presuppose that the same order applied for the existing heavens and earth. The genesis accounts focus is on man - God formed man and breathed into man the breadth of life. The angelic world existed before this...
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