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    The Mangling of Ephesians 2:8-9

    jasoncran wrote: Hi jasoncran, Heb 6: 4 For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6and then have fallen away, it is...
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    The Mangling of Ephesians 2:8-9

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    The Mangling of Ephesians 2:8-9

    Hi Adullam, The texts you quoted are in addition to an increasing body of evidence. To help someone walking in the flesh to recover is to save him from death. To state the obvious... Someone who is walking in the Spirit needs to guard against wandering from the truth; while someone who is...
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    The Mangling of Ephesians 2:8-9

    stranger wrote: OSAS is refuted by Hebrew 6 Heb 6: 4 For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6and then have fallen...
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    The Mangling of Ephesians 2:8-9

    OSAS is refuted by Hebrew 6 Heb 6: 4For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6and then have fallen away, it is...
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    The Mangling of Ephesians 2:8-9

    gd wrote: Yes, I believe that a son of God can 'backslide' to such an extent that he will not inherit the Kingdom of God. An example is found in Heb 6: 4-8 For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy...
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    The Mangling of Ephesians 2:8-9

    Christians can walk in the flesh though they SHOULD walk in the Spirit. Here is how it happens. It is accepted that Christians sin. When this happens I believe a Christian is walking in the flesh. S/he has stopped walking in the Spirit. Here is a short proof, though I suspect most Christians...
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    The Mangling of Ephesians 2:8-9

    Hi glorydaz, OK, we agree that a Christian can sin, obviously. Scripture is full of admonitions not to! You spent a great deal of effort in saying that the norm for the Christian life is to walk in the Spirit. I entirely agree - we are all saying yes to that. So let's leave this and...
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    The Mangling of Ephesians 2:8-9

    hi glorydaz, A clarification is needed on Rom 8:13. We seem to disagree on whom Paul is addressing in Rom 8:13. I say he is addressing believers. Are you sure Paul is addressing unbelievers? If so, can a Christian sin? When a Christian does sin is he living after the flesh? Rom 8:13 For if...
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    The Trichotomy of Man (part I)

    Danus wrote: The parallel between 'trinity' and man's body, soul and spirit having some correspondence, since man was made in God's image, is at best such a construct and attempt to explain what man is. The body is quite plain - but the soul and spirit are words that were never clear to me...
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    The Mangling of Ephesians 2:8-9

    glorydaz wrote: If a Christian isn't walking in the Spirit then he must be walking in the in flesh. Yes, that's our true status in Christ. Yes, that's our calling. Agreed, clearly not walking in the Spirit. Agreed, our calling is clear. Agreed, having begun to walk in the Spirit ...
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    Ignoring Romans 2: An Error of Exegisis

    Drew wrote: That would be 2 Cor 5:21 He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.
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    Ignoring Romans 2: An Error of Exegisis

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    Ignoring Romans 2: An Error of Exegisis

    Hi Drew, Q1 'brothers' in Christ Q2 'life' Given the text, a relatively straightforward question - the answer to the question is in the text. Believers can walk in the Spirit or after/in the flesh. They do not walk in the Spirit AND in the flesh simultaneously. Now the miserable sinner...
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    Ignoring Romans 2: An Error of Exegisis

    francisdesales wrote: Hi francis, If the argument is traced back to Adam. He imaged' God's original righteousness or holiness before the fall. Adam then lost/forfeited the original righteousness. So man can be holy and he can lose it. This raises the question can man regain that (real)...
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    The Mangling of Ephesians 2:8-9

    the question... Q 1. Do you believe in justification by faith alone? glorydaz wrote: stranger wrote: Specifically, do you believe in justification by faith alone? hi gd, Near enough to be 'sola fide' ie justification by faith alone. My answer to the question (Do I believe in...
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    The Mangling of Ephesians 2:8-9

    Hello glorydaz, Time to summarise where we agree and disagree. Feel free to ask me any questions. Q 1. Do you believe in justification by faith alone? blessings brother
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    The Mangling of Ephesians 2:8-9

    Re: precisely stranger wrote: The Holy Spirit would not teach two men differently, agreed? Let's pick Martin Luther and the apostle James. You will be aware that Martin Luther called the book of James an epistle of straw? Why? I suggest it's the text James 2:17-18 and Luthers own belief in...
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