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hi, Yes, faith without works is dead; but what is MTAA? blessings

Re: precisely glorydaz wrote: The Holy Spirit would not teach two men differently, agreed? Let's pick Martin Luther and the apostle James. You will be aware that Martin Luther called the book of James an epistle of straw? Why? I suggest it's the text James 2:17-18 and Luthers own belief in...

Hi Vic C, For this tread I would say the 'works of the law' are attempts to live by the ten commandments. The good works are the fruits of the Spirit. OK? Basically I have sought to understand Eph 2:8,9 by using the definition of 'faith' derived from James 2:17-18. I point out that 'faith'...

glorydaz wrote: Hi gd, Can we agree to reserve 'good deeds' to refer to the genuine 'fruits of the Spirit?' Thus 'good deeds the hypocrites do' won't lead anywhere (except to death) so why call them 'good deeds'? As a courtesy I won't refer to 'evil deeds that the righteous do'. Please...

Hi Drew, You have gone to lengths to equate 'works' with 'good works' or with 'works of the law of Moses' depending upon the context. It occurred to me that you can also 'equate' faith in the Ephesians text with faith in James2:17,18 thus: According to James faith has to include 'works' or it...

Mysteryman, In any event what Jesus 'meant' is simply an interpretation. Q Would you partake of the Lord's Supper where the text of Matt 26:26ff is read out without further comment or interpretation? blessings brother Hi Stranger My mistake John 26:26 was supposed to read Matt 26:26. I...

Mysteryman, In any event what Jesus 'meant' is simply an interpretation. Q Would you partake of the Lord's Supper where the text of John 26:26ff is read out without further comment or interpretation? blessings brother

Hi Drew, Ephesians 2:8-9 is ok. Now back to Rom 2: v13for it is not the hearers of the Law who are just before God, but the doers of the Law will be justified. 'Hearers of the Law' implies they hear but don't do. Obviously 'doers of the Law' also hear. I would be interested to see why you...

Hi faithtransforms, No transubstantiation thing -I'm confining myself to what is revealed in scripture and not much more than can be safely inferred from the text. The new covenant or any covenant or testament has to be made before the death of the person making it. After the death of Christ...

Mysteryman wrote: Hi MM, Drew wrote in the OP: As I said earlier I came to this tread half way through... Taking your comment above as a proposition I want to set it in the context of what I think the OP is getting at. OK? A We are God's workmanship, and we have the faith of Christ. Our...

stranger wrote: No disrespect to gd and MM - so my following comment applies to the Protestant 'sola justification'. Rom 2:13 is hardly a proof text for justification alone or justification by faith alone, is it? Perhaps there is a perception that all this distorts the gospel. glorydaz...

stranger wrote: The honest exegete would presumably recognise the distinction between what is revealed and where interpretation begins. Hi Drew, The distinction I am referring to is between a text of scripture (or written revelation - what is revealed) and our interpretation of that text...

Hi francis, John 6 started the current interest in the Lord's Supper. The original group who left Jesus asked/murmured amongst themselves : How can this man give us his flesh to eat? At that point in time nothing more was revealed, no answer was given to the question. Nor did the group 'hang...

Drew wrote: Hi Drew, The honest exegete would presumably recognise the distinction between what is revealed and where interpretation begins. In regard to the power of the Law of Moses to save.... There was/is also another power at work called 'the law of sin and death.' This needs to be...

Then why did Jesus take the cup and call it 'the cup of the new covenant' Luke 22:20? Other texts support this also. We are establishing what Jesus did and said as distinct from our interpretations of what it meant. This is what I tried to point out in the OP - the folk in the road can be...

hi francis, How are you? I am quite open about the line of enquiry in the OP. Would you begrudge a brother in Christ a 'symbol' if no other gesture was forthcoming? blessings brother:

Hi Nick, That does not answer the question. To clarify this -- I can trace the word remembrance to two NT texts dealing with the Lord's Supper. I can trace the word 'covenant' likewise to the text. But I still cannot trace either 'symbolic or represents' to any text dealing with the Lord's...

Hi faithtransforms, Since there are a handful of different interpretations about what Jesus' words mean -- I am trying to find a point where the interpretations first start to differ from one another. There is no problem with the word 'remembrance ' because it is found twice in the context...

Hi savedbygrace57, The natural branch cut off will be grafted back into the cultivated olive tree. So I would say that they could have been the foreknown people of God - Israel that had rejected the Messiah for a season. Now if you believe in God's sovereignty - then it would not matter when...

Ok folks, if the apostles believed in their time it was the end of the age, and it was, then the time we have left is indeed very short. Also, its not as though we are getting younger. I want to thank all for their participation - take care blessings brothers