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Evidently you ASSUMED John 3:16 teaches "belief only". Therefore when I said belief only does not save, you crossed the verse out as if I was getting rid of that verse. Yet Jn 3:16 does NOT teach belief only saves. By making John 3:16 teach "belief only" saves, then that change made to the...

Why? John 3:16 does not say "he that believeth only in Him ". Or did you cross it out because it does not say "he that believeth only in Him"? :)

Are INDIVIDUALS UNconditionally sealed apart from the group called 'Christian?

John 10:27 "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:" John 10:28 "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand." The antecedent of "them" and 'they" of verse 28 are the ones who hear and follow of verse 27...

From what you quoted above, in neither verse does Christ speak specifically about unbelievers, so unbelievers are out of context as to WHO Christ is speaking about. In John 5:24 we see WHO Christ is speaking about, He is speaking specifically about believers (he who believes). So the plural...

Believing does save, believing only does not save. Faith does save, faith only does not save. There is a difference. Therefore since belief only does not save to begin with, then if one stops believing only he cannot lose salvation for he never had it to lose. Your argument fails to...

The purpose and use of parables was to teach spiritual truths and in the case of the parable I cited the spiritual truth is unfaithful stewards will be lost. In the context, Jesus speaks of those that hear and follow. The plural pronoun "them" of v28 would refer back to the nearest antecendant...

Here, you put a CONDITION on having eternal life, the condition of belief.......thereby refuting your own argument. I have said all along the "they" of John 10:28 INCLUDES believers and EXCLUDES unbelievers which does not break any forums rules that I see. I do not put any person in either...

John10:28 does not say the unfaithful will be saved. This proves you are reading things into the verse and contradicting other passages showing the unfaithful steward will be lost. We know from v27 the "they" are the ones who hear and follow. and you still have not produce a verse that says...

The bible teaches the Christian can fall away and be lost, giving examples of those that did fall away and gives warnings and admonishments about fall away and being lost. Those that embrace OSAS will not deal with the verses that require faithfulness on part of the Christian so that he will...

You are denying and attacking the present tense in John 10:27 that requires an ongoing faithful hearing and following of Christ in order to be of the "they" in v28 that shall not perish. Since this does not jibe with your personal ideas you are attacking the present tense. John 3:16 John 5:24...

1) Jesus NEVER said He would give eternal life to the unfaithful. If Christ will save the unfaithful then show me the verse that says He will 2) The "they" in John 10:28 ARE FAITHFUL in their hearing and following Christ. Your misinterpretation of John 10:28 creates two total unbiblical ideas...

You try and create more new verses. Where is the verse that says those that are unfaithful shall be saved? Luke 12:42 Jesus asked "Who then is the faithful and wise steward"? The faithful v43. Luke 12:45-46 those that become unfaithful to the Lord will be lost. So where is the verse that...

Verse 27, the words of Christ identifies who the "they" are of verse 28 and NOT YOU and your theological bias. Verse 27 and 28 is ONE thought of Christ's and your theological bias cannot have it that way so you insert YOUR thoughts in place of verse 27. Yes, I agree 100% with Christ when He...

You continue to ignore verse 27 which goes with verse 28. Verse 27 tells us who the "they" are of verse 28 that shall not perish. The "they" that shall not perish are the ones who hear and follow Christ. You are trying to create a new verse by saying the "they" who never perish also includes...

1) There is a "false interpretation" given to John 10:28 when verse 27 gets ignored as it is happening in this thread. 2) where does the bible teach if one loses, casts aside his faith he will still be saved but just lose rewards? 3) do you agree with FreeGrace a Christian can quit believing...

My point is good works are REQUIRED by God seeing that God has preordained Christians to do good works. So either God is requiring the Christian to earn some thing by doing good works or doing good works is just meeting a condition God has places upon His free gift of eternal life and earn...

So likewise you, when you have done all those things which you are commanded, say, ‘We are unprofitable servants. We have done what was our duty to do So the Christian doing good works is just doing his duty in doing what is commanded of him and those works do not, cannot merit salvation.

By being faithful unto death Revelation 2:10

You were implying in the OP that if one does good works he is trying to earn some thing. And it is GOD that is requiring the good works:: --So we have GOD (not man) requires/mandates the Christian do good works else the Christian will not be saved.(not just loss of rewards) --Therefore GOD...