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  1. Seabass

    If you believe you can lose your salvation, you are not saved!(explanation)

    Yes, but God never promised or made eternal security a gift, therefore eternal security is not a promise/gift that can be revoked since eternal security was never made a promise/gift. Again, since eternal security is not a promise/gift that God ever made, it therefore cannot part of Rom 11:29 as...
  2. Seabass

    If you believe you can lose your salvation, you are not saved!(explanation)

    1) "MUST DO" implies salvation is by DOING and not by doing nothing. 2) Paul did NOT command the jailer to 'believe only'. "Believe only" is NOT DOING but a mere mental assent of the mind. 3) Paul would not contradict himself by making believing the only requirement for salvation when in other...
  3. Seabass

    If you believe you can lose your salvation, you are not saved!(explanation)

    When the bible says 'believe' you are assuming it means 'believe only'. To assume that 'believe' means belief only creates contradictions and ignores the verses where Christ made repentance confession and baptism of equal importance and necessity to salvation. Lk 13;3,5; Matt 10:32,33; Mk 16:16...
  4. Seabass

    If you believe you can lose your salvation, you are not saved!(explanation)

    Again, in Rom 11 the Jews are in the context as having been the ones cast aside/broken off. In verse 28 Paul is speaking about the Jews...the Jews are the enemies for the sake of the Gentiles... The Jews were the enemies of the gospel for they rejected Christ and His gospel. Yet their...
  5. Seabass

    If you believe you can lose your salvation, you are not saved!(explanation)

    One gains the promise of salvation/eternal life CONDITIONALLY and one must maintain the CONDITIONS in order to maintain the promise: Rom 5:2 "By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God." One must CONDITIONALLY have faith in...
  6. Seabass

    If you believe you can lose your salvation, you are not saved!(explanation)

    One is not required to have faith to gain God's gift and keep faith in order to maintain God's gift???? 1 Jn 1:7 after one is saved, he does not have to CONDITIONALLY continue to walk in the light to have all his sins to be continually cleansed away by the blood of Christ???? Jn 6:27 Jesus...
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    If you believe you can lose your salvation, you are not saved!(explanation)

    Most, if not all, on this forum would agree that God is the one Who saves. To me the bigger question is not Who saves, but WHY does God save one person and not another person? WHY would God save "Joe" but not "Jack"? Did God save Joe because he conditionally believeth and Jack does not? If...
  8. Seabass

    If you believe you can lose your salvation, you are not saved!(explanation)

    Rom 3:24 "Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:" Can I find redemption UNconditionally OUTSIDE of Christ?
  9. Seabass

    If you believe you can lose your salvation, you are not saved!(explanation)

    I added the following (blue) to my post after you replied to me: Some will ignore the present tense of verbs and assume God will continue to UNcondtionally take one even if one quits taking Christ. Jn 11:26 "And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. " Believeth is present...
  10. Seabass

    If you believe you can lose your salvation, you are not saved!(explanation)

    The way the bible puts it: If you keep on taking (present tense) Christ, then God will keep on taking you. The implication being if one quits taking Christ, God no longer takes him. Some will ignore the present tense of verbs and assume God will continue to UNcondtionally take one even if one...
  11. Seabass

    If you believe you can lose your salvation, you are not saved!(explanation)

    Can anyone be saved without CONDITIONALLY believing? No, Jn 8:24 Can one be saved/not perish without CONDITIONALLY repenting? No, Lk 13:3,5 Can one be saved without CONDITIONALLY confessing Christ? No, Mt 10:32,33; Rom 10:9,10 Can one be saved without CONDITIONALLY accepting the gospel...
  12. Seabass

    If you believe you can lose your salvation, you are not saved!(explanation)

    "Believe" and "believe only" are not the same thing. "Believe" includes repentance confession and baptism to be saved. "Believe only" excludes repentance confession and baptism from being saved. The above is a mere partial list of verses that deal with salvation. There are many, many, many...
  13. Seabass

    If you believe you can lose your salvation, you are not saved!(explanation)

    Again, the context is about God's gift and calling to the Jews was without repentance. Even though the Jews would not believe God would not repent of the gifts and calling He had made to the Jews. Paul never said in Rom 11 or else that when one receives the promise of salvation he can never...
  14. Seabass

    If you believe you can lose your salvation, you are not saved!(explanation)

    I agree that believing is obeying. So I do not understand why you posted to me "This scripture sure does validate what you are saying." in your post #295.
  15. Seabass

    If you believe you can lose your salvation, you are not saved!(explanation)

    You never provided a verse that says belief only is all that is necessary to be saved. No verse says belief only is all that is necessary to be saved for that would contradict the verses that make repentance, confession and baptism just as necessary to salvation. Impenitent as in Rom 2:4,5...
  16. Seabass

    If you believe you can lose your salvation, you are not saved!(explanation)

    You are simply reading something into the Rom 11:29 text that is not there. As already had been demonstrated, the Jews themselves are proof OSAS is not biblical for they went from being God's elect/God's chosen to being cast away/broken off Rom 11:15,20 and they became lost due to unbelief in...
  17. Seabass

    If you believe you can lose your salvation, you are not saved!(explanation)

    The bible still requires repentance confession and baptism to be saved. You have not yet shown how an impenitent one will be saved anyway, or how one that denies Christ and will not confess Him yet be saved anyway, or how one can reject the gospel by rejecting baptism yet be saved anyway. Eph...
  18. Seabass

    If you believe you can lose your salvation, you are not saved!(explanation)

    When kept in context, Rom 11:29 is about the fleshly Jews, that God will not repent of His calling and election of the Jews. God will still allow the Jews to be of His elect through Christ. They can still be grafted in (v23) and God will not permanently cast them off making salvation...
  19. Seabass

    If you believe you can lose your salvation, you are not saved!(explanation)

    Already posted many times one needs to obey by believing, repenting confessing and submitting to baptism in order to reveive the promise of salvation. Then one must do good works Eph 2:10 and remain faithful unto death Rev 2:10 to maintain this promise of salvation. No one is perfectly...
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    If you believe you can lose your salvation, you are not saved!(explanation)

    https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G96&t=KJV According to BlueLetterBible (above link) the word adokimos is found 8 times and in the KJV it is translated "reprobate" 6 of the 8 times. The word means reprobate and no good reason for it being translated any other way...
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