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    If you believe you can lose your salvation, you are not saved!(explanation)

    1)Christ saves those that obey, Heb 5:9. 2)Christ saves those that believe Jn 3:16. 3) therefore obey = believe Since there is just one way to be saved then the logical implication is believing is obeying/obedience. Believing must include repentance, confession and baptism or Christ...
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    Abraham, Saved by Belief Only?

    Rom 4:12 "And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised." The true descendants of Abraham are those that have a faith like Abraham's faith that "walk". The...
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    If you believe you can lose your salvation, you are not saved!(explanation)

    The title of the thread says "If you believe you can lose your salvation, you are not saved". As I pointed out, Paul knew he could become a reprobate 1 Cor 9:27 so the thread title is not true according to Paul nor did Paul teach OSAS. God promise to CONDITIONALLY save them that obey, Heb 5:9...
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    If I ask someone for a gift, did I earn it, or work for it when I got it handed to me?

    I could give you for free a brand new Lamborghini. Want it? Then do the work of coming to my office to pick up the car, keys and title. Does your work in coming to my office mean you earned the free car? No, for all you did was meet a condition I placed upon my free gift. Likewise calling...
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    If you believe you can lose your salvation, you are not saved!(explanation)

    Paul knew he could become a reprobate, 1 Cor 9:27, therefore was Paul not saved??? Good works cannot save a lost sinner yet obedient works in doing the will of God can save the lost sinner. No one can be saved while they continue in disobeying the will of God. Matt 7:21 those that enter the...
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    Apostate Verses Believer

    The Hebrew writer must have been speaking of the saved for he speaks of them having (past tense) fallen away (not just the possibility of falling away as the KJV has it). One who has never been saved is already and always fallen therefore cannot fall. Again, it would not be possible to 'renew'...
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    Apostate Verses Believer

    What I put in red letters above make it too painfully obvious the Hebrew writer is talking about Christians. F.W. Grant was willing to ignore the obvious for his religious bias: 1) once enlightened - left the lost state of darkness to the saved state of being in the light, Acts 26:18; Col 1:13...
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    Good works & a few simple Questions.

    Rom 6:16 Paul says "obedience unto righteousness" and NOT obedience because one is already righteous.
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    Good works & a few simple Questions.

    Paul did not say he never committed any sin but did say he was dead unto sin, that sin did not dwell in Him Rom 6:7-14. 1 TIm 1:15 Paul was presently regretting his past life as a sinner yet Paul has now found mercy 1 Tim 1:16.
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    Good works & a few simple Questions.

    Paul said he was dead to sin, Rom 6:7-14. Those that have not believed, repented, confess, submitted to baptism have sin living in them.
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    Good works & a few simple Questions.

    I agree Jesus condemns those that live in sin. Yet as I already shown in my last post to you, Jesus also condemns those that do not believe repent, confess or submit to baptism. Therefore that means not believing, not repenting, not confessing Christ, not submitting to baptism are sins that...
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    Good works & a few simple Questions.

    Believing, repenting, confession and submitting to baptism are the VERY things that makes one righteous before God. God said to do those things to be saved and those that do these things are working God's righteousness and (Acts 10:35) them that worketh righteousness are accepted with God. A...
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    Good works & a few simple Questions.

    Jesus requires the obedient works of believing, repenting confession and baptism to be saved and Jesus condemns those that do not do these works. For those that do not do the works of believing and repenting shall perish Jn 3:16; Lk 13:3,5 those that do not do the work of confession will be...
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    Good works & a few simple Questions.

    Yes, each Christian has work to do in the kingdom of God and each one will be judged by his own labor that he does. The responsibility to do good works is given to the Christian. The onus is not upon the Spirit to produce good works in the Christian. So I do not agree with the idea that God...
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    Good works & a few simple Questions.

    Obviously I do not agree nor does the context support your post. You are trying to separate the works from the faith when, in fact, the good works are a PART of the Christian faith. Therefore neglecting of the good works is a neglecting of the faith meaning the lack of good works is proof of...
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    Good works & a few simple Questions.

    I do not agree with this position for Paul said God renders unto man for man's own works and God does not render unto men for what the Holy Spirit has done to man. Each will judged according to his "own labor" (1 Cor 3:8) and God is not judging the Spirit according to the works the Spirit...
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    Good works & a few simple Questions.

    Judgement of condemnation here in Matt 25 is based upon not what a disciple did but what he neglected to do. Any disciple(s) that neglects his fellow disciples that are in need are, as Christ puts it, neglecting Christ Himself and will have condemnation judged upon him for his neglect. The...
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    From Adam to Moses

    Hi, Maybe I misunderstand what the OP was saying. There was no law of Moses between Adam and Moses but there was law (Patriarchal law) that did exist from Adam to Moses. Rom 5:13 "(For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. Rom 5:14 "Nevertheless...
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    Good works & a few simple Questions.

    Good works do not save, but obedient works in believing, repenting of sins, confession and submitting to baptism do save, Jn 8:24; Lk 13:3,5; Matt 10:32,33; Mk 16:16 Because good works are required by God of the believer/Christian, Eph 2:10; Matt 25:31-46; 2 Tim 3:17; Titus 2:7,14; Titus...
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    From Adam to Moses

    How do you reach the conclusion "but there was no law" in the time period between Adam and Moses?
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