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Thanks. I didn't see Grappler's name in that text...

No, I am just able to read the Scriptures, and it simply doesn't state your pie-in-the-sky peaches and cream scenario. He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and...

Thank you, I am at God's mercy... Regards

Well, Jesus does say that the potential exists to have one's name erased from that "book". If people do not ask for forgiveness, I am thinking there is a good chance of not entering into eternal life. Regards

I know I am saved, I just do not know if I am of the elect, what I was calling "eschatologically saved" before. Regards

I wish I could respond to everyone, Edward. But sometimes I am busy. This is a good Scripture to meditate on. I think this verse is saying that those who remain in Christ, who walk with Him, will be victorious. We see lots of these promises in Scripture. Seems easy on paper, doesn't it...

Very good. This reminds me of the parable of the talents. Note that the guy with one talent did not do anything evil, did he? Do not squander what we have been given, that is good advice, urk. Regards

OK, we are making progress. God be praised... Persevere and remain in Christ, my friend. Regards

I hope you are, Grappler, I hope you are...

Something is the "unforgiveable sin", or as Hebrews 6 speaks about, "impossible to repent" because the person in that situation will NOT repent. If a person does fall away, it is VERY difficult to come back. What leads to that falling away in the first place, and the return to a former...

I would prefer that you use the correct terminology: The elect are OSAS, if you will. Yes. The "saved", no, not all of them. Saved does not equal predestined to eternal glory. The problem is that WE don't know who the elect are. They look just like the people around us, maybe even us...

What makes you think you are one of those that the Father has given Christ??? Maybe you will fall away in five years and you were not one of the ones given to Christ? Persevere. Stop being presumptuous.

Well, now it appears you are stating that the preachers of 2 Peter 2 are falsely infiltrating the church and were always "evil". Of course, that begs the question why the need for the "if" clause in v 20. WHY would Peter mention this, and just state what you are - that they were always evil and...

:biglol Not according to Jesus. People begin in faith, having received the Word of God - and then fall away... They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away Luke 8:13

Huh? I am not following your logic. The OSAS mentality is that there are people who claim to be Christians, sitting in the pews, practicing Christianity, etc., but are not "saved", not "born agains". Only the REAL Christians, the "born agains", have been given the promises. The "truly saved"...

That is not a hypothetical statement. It is a confirmed conditional, IF you read 2 Peter 2... Now, when someone writes 19 verses that speaks of a group of teachers as Peter does, wouldn't it make sense that HE thinks that the conditional in verse 20 has OBVIOUSLY been fulfilled? I think one...

You may very well be correct in distinguishing the variety of points of the journey to complete sanctification. However, each and every one are given the same initial forgiveness of sins, the same promises, the same Holy Spirit and the same status of righteousness. In other words, these...

I will do the best I can to respond to you, but I also respond to others and I have a life, so I cannot do the detailed responses that some would like or prefer. I did not answer that question because it didn't have much to do with the topic at hand. If you think it has an application, ask...

You misunderstand what I said. God does not require blood. God utilized blood as a symbol of the reality of its importance. Without blood, you have no life. The blood represents the total self giving to God. But does God NEED blood? Is God blood-thirsty? What does God state? O Israel, I will...

Can you give some Biblical evidence of two groups of Christians, one "saved" and the other "unsaved"? EVERYONE who is baptized is born from above, freed from sin, etc... There are not two classes of believers. It seems you believe that there is a special class of Christians who are 'saved'...