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Yes, the Judge of all the earth shall do right, that's my point. God desires all men to be saved - but because they were born prior to 25 AD or in the wrong hemisphere, they are damned for eternity??? Your Indian ancestors wouldn't think much of that...

George, you are the one telling me who God is going to save and who God is going to condemn. Get off your high horse. Clearly, you have no concept of the difference between "reject" and "not aware of", so this conversation is over your head. Have a wonderful holiday basting in the freedom...

First, "ecclesia" does not mean "the Lord's house". It refers to people coming together for some purpose. In a religious context, it is the people who worship God together. Secondly, the Bible says that the Church is the Body of Christ. It is the Temple of the Spirit. The pillar and foundation...

That's a direct quote? Which chapter/verse? My point is that it is not a pillar of Islam, a core teaching, like you state. As usual, you are not absorbing what I am saying. You are telling us that every single Muslim ever born is/will be sent to eternal damnation. Every single person born...

1. Believes. Presently. Shown by their fruit. Not by their mouth. 2. Believes not = rejects. As in: "I know what Jesus teaches and I reject it", say the Pharisees. It is NOT "doesn't know about". OK, not sure what your point is here, except it proves MY point. Overcomes WHAT? Sin and...

George, this is starting to get tiring - your inability to follow what non-OSAS actually believe... If you believe TODAY, you trust in His blood TODAY, you are saved TODAY. You are free from the slavery of sin TODAY. If you are yet again enslaved to sin later in life, you no longer...

No, that is not a core belief of Islam... Christ is not mentioned, positively or negatively, as one of the pillars of Islam. Now, a mullah preaching that Christ is not God, yes, that is heresy. But one must wonder what they know. Do they preach a strawman version, such as their human idea...

George, no one is granting salvation to anyone!!! That is something God ALONE does. NOR is anyone taking away salvation from anyone!!! Again, that God ALONE does. Is this clear? Suggesting that an OSAS person can fall away OR that a "noble pagan" may enter the Kingdom is not usurping...

NO ONE HAS SAID EITHER.

George, you need to cool off. No one here is condemning OSAS people. Get a grip. No need for dramatics.

I am about to pull my hair out....!!!! :crazy Salvation by works = salvation by one's own ability. It is a wage paid for what one does without aid. Romans 4:4. Who here is making that statement? Has any OSAS person read Romans 2??? WHO is the person going to eternal rewards? Is faith...

Does it say that anyone who is ignorant about the Christ will burn in hell forever in John 3?

Nowhere does John 3 speak about the ignorant. It speaks of those who believe and those who reject. The ignorant are another class of persons whom God will judge based upon His values being upheld, values written in the hearts of men/women. Any obedience by such "pagans" can only be attributed...

You are purposely posting inflammatory lies about what I believe by twisting what I said or what the Catholic Church teaches. So yea, it's an pitiful attempt to get me to react to your trolling. What part of "if I want your opinion, I'll ask for it" don't you get. Leave me alone, please...

Who is Christ? Is it the concern of God the Father that we know the Jesus of history? Do you think eternal salvation rests upon knowledge of a man named Jesus of Nazareth who was nailed to a cross? Haven't you just reverted to condemning so many millions - billions - of people who were...

George, I would bet a dollar to donuts that the typical Muslim is clueless on the Gospel as taught by the Church. They have been fed a false version. Ask a Muslim about "Trinity", for example, to get a feel for how misinformed they are. Thus, most are ignorant of the Gospel. What they are...

Not at all. Works righteousness is something one does ALONE and takes to God and says "see how good I am". All that we have is by grace, whether faith OR good deeds done in Christ. They are both gifts. Not sure how one can focus so much on "works righteousness", while forgeting that FAITH...

Not interested... Maybe you can speak to a Moderator on why you feel compelled to bother me. I have already said I am not being drawn into your little flame war games...

Ah. OK, thanks John...! Regards

Exactly. Good points.