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  1. francisdesales

    My latest attempt at connecting the dots vs. OSAS

    What do you mean by being "saved"? What does it entail? I ask this because people have different definitions. Regards
  2. francisdesales

    Not all born-again Christians make it through the sanctification process!

    The term "salvation" is used, but WHAT DOES THAT MEAN??? Thanks for the post, but I am really just making a generic comment, not arguing with you on the ubiquitous argument of OSAS/non-OSAS discussions here. If you want to effectively get your point across and not waste your time, I am just...
  3. francisdesales

    Not all born-again Christians make it through the sanctification process!

    This is no strawman, it is reality. And your refusal to define "salvation" is typical of our past discussions. Scripture clearly uses a number of definitions of the term "save". If you can't see that, there is nothing more to say to you. Thanks, but no thanks.
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    Not all born-again Christians make it through the sanctification process!

    I wrote what I wrote. Both of these comments you made were in error. Was I wrong to point that out? What personal attack? I didn't call you any names. This is an apologetic forum. If you make an error, expect for someone to call you out on it. It is nothing personal. If you take a...
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    Not all born-again Christians make it through the sanctification process!

    So what you are trying to say is that you prefer to remain vague and ambiguous by NOT defining what YOU mean by salvation and works. Good for you...
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    Not all born-again Christians make it through the sanctification process!

    The term is "papal infallibility". Your definition has nothing to do with papal infallibility. Since this is a taboo topic, I am not going to detail what it means, Reba has done so. But one can readily see how few people actually know what the Catholic Church teaches, to include "ex...
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    Not all born-again Christians make it through the sanctification process!

    That was not my comment, it was on one person who THOUGHT they knew something but didn't... I was not making a statement about the knowledge of YOUR "sect" or anyone else's OWN knowledge of their own "sect". In other words, remain silent on things you don't know about, especially if you use...
  8. francisdesales

    Not all born-again Christians make it through the sanctification process!

    Define salvation. Define works.
  9. francisdesales

    Not all born-again Christians make it through the sanctification process!

    Before people continue on this age-old discussion, they should define several words, since it appears people tend to talk past each other. Salvation Justification Faith Works When do these happen? What are they? Once you get that down, it saves a lot of time. Regards
  10. francisdesales

    Not all born-again Christians make it through the sanctification process!

    LOL! Perhaps not anti-Catholic, but certainly ignorant of things Catholic. There are no good Catholic systematic theology books out there??? Ever hear of the Catholic Catechism? It's been around for a few years... Ever hear of Thomas Aquinas? What is "Papal Inerrancy"? Never heard of it...
  11. francisdesales

    Will all born-again Christians make it to heaven?

    "Eternal life" is not equated with eschatological salvation, for eternal life is Jesus Christ's abiding presence within us. HE is the way, the truth AND THE LIFE. As long as we abide in Him, we have a guarantee of eternal life. That's the promise. So persevere. Until the end. For as...
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    Will all born-again Christians make it to heaven?

    Indeed, it is utterly amazing to me how many people have peeked at the Book of Life, convinced that they are in it - and THEN, they fall away and everyone presumes that the peek was really not a peek but wishful thinking. The whole idea is nuts. It offers no security. At least I know I have...
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    Will all born-again Christians make it to heaven?

    I am not laughing at you, chessman, you seem to be a nice, honest fellow. I am laughing at the conclusion you made in that post, the 'summary'. In our discussion, I do not recall you making your point with such certain decisiveness based upon the text as you lead us to believe in the post I...
  14. francisdesales

    Will all born-again Christians make it to heaven?

    Hey, if you are going to answer for me like that, carry on!!! Regards
  15. francisdesales

    Will all born-again Christians make it to heaven?

    We all begin in "vomit", a life of sin, chessman. Is that not correct? Anyone who has been FREED from sin, as Peter describes in v 20, 21 - and then RETURNS to that life of sin, has returned to "vomit". I think this is quite clear. Regards
  16. francisdesales

    Will all born-again Christians make it to heaven?

    LOL!!! You have provided no evidence that 2 Peter is speaking about unsaved individuals. Verse 20 will not allow such an interpretation... In our discussions, all you have stated is basically "chessman has stated it as so"... There is no evidence based just on the text. There are numerous...
  17. francisdesales

    Will all born-again Christians make it to heaven?

    Lots of people say "Lord, Lord" and Jesus states He never knew them... The only way we know Him is by obeying the commandments, not by "talking to Him"... Forgive me if I am unconvinced with your argument or your conclusions. I see no further use in discussing this issue with you, nothing...
  18. francisdesales

    Will all born-again Christians make it to heaven?

    How does your exegesis effect the subject matter? And who is spreading condemnation? It is nothing more than "be alert", "persevere", "stay awake". Is that condemnation? Furthermore, Matthew 24:13 goes beyond just persecution. One must remain in Christ to enter into eschatological...
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    Will all born-again Christians make it to heaven?

    Sure thing, "Einstein"... That's why you responded with "Grappler is just a username", as if that makes a difference in what we are talking about...:p Here is the passage, once again. All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out It...
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    Will all born-again Christians make it to heaven?

    LOL! Are you in middle school or something? I don't care what name you use, it isn't in the passage you cite...
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