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  1. rthom7

    Why Do Christians Argue Against Works?

    You write well Dorothy, and not far from the kingdom of God. I wish others understood faith as it should be, but alas many of us fall short. My faviourite verse among many is God snatches us as a firebrand from the fire and saves some who might only do one faithful work in their entire life...
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    Why Do Christians Argue Against Works?

    I agree, if you have no active salvation within you, you have no salvation. This is the same as saying, if you have no active relationship to Jesus, you have no relationship. The five foolish virgins lost their salvation because they ran out of HS oil. Yet they believed in Jesus, but ran out...
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    Why Do Christians Argue Against Works?

    I would say works are evidence of our salvation in us. Jesus did not come to earth and stand around doing nothing. He also came in the faith of His Father too. He also was not saved by His good works, Jesus was saved by the Faith in His Father. DId Jesus do nothing on earth? No , He allowed His...
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    Why Do Christians Argue Against Works?

    Ro 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, Sure Dorothy there are many who do good pious deeds using their own human strength, but such human effort means nothing to God in terms of their salvation. Jas 2:14 ¶ What doth it...
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    Why Do Christians Argue Against Works?

    Thank you for the list of Hebrew words and their verses, nice :)
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    Why Do Christians Argue Against Works?

    I am not aware we can do any good works in our own strength however good our intentions are, you should perhaps read my study of faith and after reading this see if you agree with this study...I would appreciate some input, as I am trying myself to understand what faith is and how the works of...
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    Why Do Christians Argue Against Works?

    http://spiritualsprings.org/ss-796.htm here for maleness love ahab http://spiritualsprings.org/ss-838.htm here for ahabuh love
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    Why Do Christians Argue Against Works?

    Well said
  9. rthom7

    Why Do Christians Argue Against Works?

    I did ask you for some Bible texts, but I looked up your Hebrew words. Respectfully I have to disagree, though you probably speak and know modern Hebrew more than me. I am a student of Jeff Benner and support His understandings of Hebrew most of the time, sometimes I disagree. Hebrew 2617 Nm)...
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    Why Do Christians Argue Against Works?

    Can you give the BIble verses for these other Hebrew words for love please? SO I can follow you more properly... Shalom
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    Why Do Christians Argue Against Works?

    Greetings Wondering, many do not understand while there is only one word in English for love, there are TWO words in Hebrew for love. This is profound and changes the whole doctrines of elohiym that define God as love. http://spiritualsprings.org/ss-845.htm This study looks into the two Hebrew...
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    Why Do Christians Argue Against Works?

    You write well Rogerg, Faith is a gift, we are saved by Jesus faith, and there is nothing we can do to bring about our salvation. You are speaking mostly about one aspect of love, the providing love. Now how do we respond, with responding love? The response has to be using faith, the same way...
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    Why Do Christians Argue Against Works?

    You said " I will add that if someone comes to a full and complete faith/trust in Christ " What does this mean? How can you come to a full and complete faith/trust in Christ? Are we on the same page regarding what Faith is and how you get Faith?
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    Why Do Christians Argue Against Works?

    Well bro how can a human discern if the Father is wooing him to Jesus? I didn't know the Father took an active role in leading us to Jesus, I thought the Father speaks to us via the HS and the HS is the voice of our conscience that does the leading of us to Jesus. You are implying that the...
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    Why Do Christians Argue Against Works?

    You mention many times rogerg Isa 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool. (KJV) Re 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice...
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    Why Do Christians Argue Against Works?

    Well said Rogerg Salvation is a person, given to mankind as a gift, but there are many attitudes we must do to receive this gift, the most important being the ability to forgive others as God has forgiven you. If you hold any grudges against you partner, or your fellow neighbour, or church...
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    Why Do Christians Argue Against Works?

    Correct RBDerrick , works without faith mean nothing to God. Not sure I agree, the verse says with stammering lips the Hebrew goes out into a new tongue, ie Greek and English, so the meaning of Scripture here is to read the messages of truth from a Hebraic perspective and than make your...
  18. rthom7

    Why Do Christians Argue Against Works?

    Greetings gentlemen, I have written on this forum for years now, but I noticed this thread and cannot resist, because understanding "amanuah" is the most important thing in Scripture. Some have posted it means more than believe, but also to obey, actually "amanuah" is not translated well in the...
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    Bible Study What Does It Mean to "Work Out Your Salvation"?

    To work out your own salvation is an interesting theme...thanks Chopper and great posts by all here, some fine reading.... Ex 14:13 And Moses said unto the people, Fear ye not, stand still, and see the salvation of the LORD, which he will shew to you to day: for the Egyptians whom ye have seen...
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    What does it mean for the Christian to stumble?

    Greetings Free, Thank yu for the trouble of posting hyperlinks...appreciated :) I looked and studied all your links, some are scholarly some outdated...I suggest a few hours looking at Jeff Benner's Ancient Hebrew Research Center Website...to see where and why I am coming from...
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