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  1. Jacks Bratt

    [_ Old Earth _] Where Did the Idea of a Flat Earth Originate?

    I find this debate and the topic fascinating. I do have some issues with the flat earth model. I also have issues with the globe model. I believe that, in all honesty, the biblical description of the earth can easily be used to show a flat earth. I have lost any faith in what NASA says to be...
  2. Jacks Bratt

    [_ Old Earth _] Where Did the Idea of a Flat Earth Originate?

    Ya, that explains a lot. Also, the currents, tides and such would help cause this discrepancy, which, when you think about it, over the vastness of the oceans and their immense surface area, is very minuscule.
  3. Jacks Bratt

    [_ Old Earth _] Where Did the Idea of a Flat Earth Originate?

    Oh, I see, you are talking about them seeking their own level as height differences due to pressure, not a level flat surface as I assumed. Seeking their own level, to me, means that every given point on the surface of a liquid will be exactly the same height. What you are talking about in...
  4. Jacks Bratt

    [_ Old Earth _] Where Did the Idea of a Flat Earth Originate?

    So, are you saying that salt water doesn't seek it's own level.... I thought that all liquids seek their own level.
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    [_ Old Earth _] So how's the climate going?

    Ya, Erie is shallower. For the most part, there is enough open water for lake effect snow. Especially this year as the water temps are higher due to the massive amounts of sunlight hours we got this year. Combine that with cold air from the north, as the jet stream dips into the mid states and...
  6. Jacks Bratt

    After The Rapture – All The Pigs Vanish

    The antichrist will not be revealed until the beginning of the tribulation. When Christ returns at the end of this seven years, His bride will be with Him. Are we going to do a big "U" turn in the sky? Be raptured, have the marriage supper, wolf it down, jump on our white horses and return...
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    After The Rapture – All The Pigs Vanish

    Yes, we will be caught up in the air with Him, together with the resurrected ones, or "dead in Christ". Like my Grandparents and other Christians that have died and will be resurrected at this time. However, at this time, Christ does not come down to earth. He remains in the air, clouds. This...
  8. Jacks Bratt

    After The Rapture – All The Pigs Vanish

    I only quickly looked at this post and have not read all the responses. I would just like to make a quick comment based on my opinion. In my opinion the people left on the earth will be anyone who was living that did not know Christ as their savior. That's anyone..... no matter of race...
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    Judas Iscariot: Saved for a while.

    Judas was the treasurer and was stealing money from the pot, as it were. He was following Christ in His ministry, yet not "following" Christ in belief and change of heart. I believe that Judas was in it for himself. It was a good gig, he got food and publicity and took cash when he needed...
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    [_ Old Earth _] So how's the climate going?

    It is very rare that the great lakes freeze over. However, in some rare years, even Niagara falls froze solid.
  11. Jacks Bratt

    [_ Old Earth _] So how's the climate going?

    From what I understand, the El nino has passed and we are now going to get colder air from the north meeting with the warm water of the great lakes. This produces large amounts of "lake effect" snow. I don't have any personal ability to predict what or why.
  12. Jacks Bratt

    [_ Old Earth _] So how's the climate going?

    You are right, very cold temps usually are accompanied with lower snow accumulation. However, this year, the farmer almanac (which I have been surprised to see gives the most accurate weather forecast compared to all the new meteorological technology and their predictions) Environment Canada...
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    [_ Old Earth _] Where Did the Idea of a Flat Earth Originate?

    If I take my measuring tape and use it to build a deck, it works just fine. If I were to use it to do land survey's it would be taken beyond the limits of it's tolerance and the errors would grow as did the distances measured. The distance, in miles, squared, in my formula stands. It is the...
  14. Jacks Bratt

    [_ Old Earth _] So how's the climate going?

    Yes, a unprecedented hot dry summer. Now, unfortunately, they are calling for a very cold winter with colder than normal temperatures and higher than normal snow falls. Just like when I was a boy... can't wait...not.
  15. Jacks Bratt

    [_ Old Earth _] Where Did the Idea of a Flat Earth Originate?

    Every site that I go to , whether globe earth based belief or flat earth belief, globe denier or flat earth denier... they all give the same math. It's not that "flat earther's" cannot do math. The flat earth websites, with integrity in their math, are using the calculations of the supporters...
  16. Jacks Bratt

    [_ Old Earth _] Where Did the Idea of a Flat Earth Originate?

    I understand, totally. However, there is the example of the salt flats. I, for one, do not believe that we have a total grasp on all the mysteries of God's universe. This is why I am investigating.
  17. Jacks Bratt

    [_ Old Earth _] Where Did the Idea of a Flat Earth Originate?

    Yep, I totally understand. Yet, how do you explain this. These examples are perplexing. How can they be true on our globe? What is up here? The Dunkerque Light in southern France at an altitude of 194 feet is visible from 28 miles away. Spherical trigonometry dictates that if the Earth was a...
  18. Jacks Bratt

    [_ Old Earth _] Where Did the Idea of a Flat Earth Originate?

    Like I said, I am no mathematician. I do know that for all intents and purposes, my math works just fine to raise questions as to things that are visible on this globe that should not be visible,due to the curvature of the earth. If you want me to say you are right and I am wrong, due to the...
  19. Jacks Bratt

    [_ Old Earth _] Where Did the Idea of a Flat Earth Originate?

    I agree, "Gullible men do not believe in Scriptural creation and many other works of God.". What if, (and this has been put to me by a strong Christian bible believer,) the globe is the deception and the flat earth is the truth? What If? Think about that. If the earth is, in fact, a snow globe...
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