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SO then Paul LIED in Ephesians 4 when he said that: Eph 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in...

We're done here. Nothing I say will make any sense to you at all, since you obviously follow the Cessationist paradigm. SO Go ahead and believe that God had nothing to do with any of it, "Tongues" are delusional, and I just had a "Personality change" if that lights your fire.

If it was a "Natrural Ability" then why couldn't I do it "before"?? You don't know, of course, and I knew it was useless to say anything right from the beginning.

As I stated clearly: "where I began to do what was impossible for me - i.e. teach the Bible for hours with material supplied to be by the Holy Spirit". It was right there in my original answer.

Before, and After I received (In Assembly of God vernacular) "The Baptism in the Holy Spirit" with the ability to "Speak in Tongues", which occurred in 1973. I Was Born Again, and became a Christian in 1963.

It's right in the TEXT of what I wrote. If you can't "See it", there's no possibility I could make it clearer. Before, I Couldn't, AFTER, I could. Simple as that

Agreed!! in fact theologically, it's quite impossible to "Prove" much of anything to anybody unless the Holy Spirit jumps in with His Conviction. That's why paul resolved to KNOW NOTHING except Jesus and Him Crucified - and let the Holy Spirit do the REAL work of Convicting of SIN and of...

Nobody was "Called a name". Two Genres of religious paradigms were accurately described.

OF Course. (I knew your going to swing it that way, but HEY!! turnabout is fair play).

It's pretty OBVIOUS that they don't as evidenced by their lack of power. When's the last time you made a Blind man see, or a Lame person walk?? You gonna hide behind "Cessationism" as a rationalization???

The Bible is "That which is perfect" ONLY for Cessationists, and PenteHostiles.

What you may not have thought of is every time you END a prayer with "In Jesus' Name" you're CLAIMING to be speaking with JESUS' OWN AUTHORITY. But since you're not really exercising HIS AUTHORITY at all, your claim is false, and you're taking HIS NAME in vain.

COrrection - it doesn't fit YOUR INTERPRETATION if NT Context. Ridiculous a totally FALSE dichotomy. Miracles?? what "Miracles". all they were doing was blatting in their tongues, without being burdened to deliver a MESSAGE in a tongue, which would be interpreted. I speak in tongues at...

True, but not for the reason a PenteHostile thinks. One who has been "Baptised in the HOly SPirit (to use AG Vernacular) Can speak in a tongue anytime they feel like it, for as LONG as they feel like it as long as the flow of words from the Holy SPirit continues. HOwever THAT DOESN'T MEAN that...

It wasn't really an "Incident", but only a "Life condition" - the accumulation of MANY incidents, and a Depressive nature - failure to get through High school, which everybody told me would mean my future was hopeless, the disappointment that I'd already caused my family who'd wanted me to enter...

Sure - it'll really help to make them feel WORSE than they already do. It wouldn't have helped me at all - I DIDN'T CARE.

I wouldn't know (since I didn't understand or recognize it). What I DO know is that there was an INTERPRETATION in English that I could understand. Unless, of course it is, and your PenteHOSTILE paradigm just doesn't accept it. In YOUR OPINION. How do YOU know it's not a "known language"...

When I was suicidal, the last thing I cared about was "the hurt I'd leave behind" I was in personal agony, and that was all that mattered.

Which is probably the real issue. If all you know of Christianity is a "Belief System", then by all means don't go back to it. A Biblical Christian is one who has, under Holy Spirit Conviction of SIN and of Judgement, Repented of their SIN, and has been Born Again of the Holy Spirit...

The advice I got from one of my aunts that probably kept me alive long enough to become Born Again, and given a new start was: If you kill yourself, what you've done is Freeze yourself for eternity in the pain and agony that caused you to end your life to begin with. There's no escape from the...