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It's all about marketing. Take for example the recent story about the celebrities who say their nude photos where stolen off the Apple Icloud. Did you notice how many celebrities started to pip up and say their photos where stolen also? That most likely caused their names to be searched over...

I have read some of his books. I have one of the shelf some place. If you're looking for Gods word in it you won't find it. Joel is a great motivational speaker. I think he dishes out some very practical and good advice, and I'm not knocking him for that. What I have a problem with is him...

Perhaps, but I doubt it. In other words, the scale I have to judge what she said tips more to the idea that she meant worshiping God is for ones own self motivation, or for ones own self reasons, or worst of all, "self faith". If you analyze the overall message of the Olsteens, and others like...

I used to watch Joel on Sunday morning while waiting for my wife and kids to get ready for church. This was years ago. The thing that struck me most the first time I watched him, was size of the congregation, the fact that he filled an arena, and how he would hold up the bible and say "This is...

Looking for more of the message and perhaps a defense of it, but have not fond anything. If anyone can find the full context, or some defense of what Victoria said I'll be happy to check it out. In the mean time, here are some other thoughts and links about the video clip...

I have no idea where the full message is. If you can find it I'll be glade to watch it and talk about it. I'm not shadowing anything about the clip or what I'm saying about it. I'm saying it's an example of complete heresy from the mouth of of someone who is part of a self serving ministry...

The definition of Slander is: the action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation. The clip speaks for itself. No one said she said it when she didn't say it. She said; "I want to encourage everyone to realize when we obey God we're not doing it for God...

I can't say whats in Joel or Victoria Olsteen's heart when it come to God, but their message is pretty clear; SELF, SELF, SELF. Self centered or God centered? The center of their "preaching" is about the individual first and God second. Her opening statement says; When you obey God, You're...

Her statement puts self before God. That's the problem with Olsteen and his message, and the message of many like him. I've never heard it put so blatantly as it is in this clip.

I find myself in conflict a lot. My heads been on the chopping block a lot over the years for not being "ruthless" enough to satisfy the gold lust of the company or investors. There have been times when I've said we're making enough, in meetings and such. They don't like to hear that, but at the...

No. I'm a broker for a logistics company. I am like a sales middleman. I look for business, bid it, & contract out what we don't want.

Well yes, but that greed extends to many people. All companies reach a point of "saturation". That's the point where the market is saturated for the product or service they deal in. At that point, to make more money, they have to grow and gain more market share, but even that, in and of itself...

Yes, somewhat. Every day. LOL reading down the post it looks like she got out. Good deal, I guess. I would not want my daughter stressed out and unhappy, but such environments can be strengthening. I am very alone as a Christian in my work, and often taken advantage of, or attempted by higher...

It could be hammered into a verity of theological views, but no. That's not the primary understanding of Substitutional atonement. The basic understanding is that Christ died on the cross in place of those who will be saved. It is expressed in a number of biblical passages. 1 Pet 2:24; He...

It seems to present an on old argument, but perhaps with a mixed bag of a few more newer versions, and I'm only basing that on the excepts you've presented; just the one-liners I can pick out there. However, that might have been a synopsis meant to include a perception of what seems like...

:lol I love the title. I knew there was more to it.

I doubt that's the whole argument against Penal Substation from the book. Reformed theology does not emphasis the torture of Jesus Christ as a necessary part of atonement. Nor is it enough for Christ to just have died on the cross. Rather Christ had to do two things. 1. Live the righteous life...

I guess you'll have to be more clear then. Then opening statement was this; "The Penal Substitution theory of the atonement - the view that Christ had to suffer under the wrath of God in order to satisfy His justice on our behalf - is the very antithesis of Christianity." This says that...

Whats being said in the OP is that God didn't willingly die on the cross in place of any sinner. What's being said in the OP, is a "semi pelagian", or "Pelagian" argument that Christ, by his own sacrificial choice, was not punished (penalised) in the place of sinners (substitution), thus...