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According to the Bible, the punishment for sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ. The eternal punishment is death, not eternal conscious torment.

The eternal punishment is death, just as the Bible says. You don't understand the gospel that you are arguing against. Nobody is suggesting that there is no eternal punishment. There just is no eternal conscious torment or torture. According to the Bible, the wages of sin is death. If you add...

It would have been so easy for you to say "I guess the Bible really doesn't say that people send themselves to hell". But you just couldn't do it.

MY doctrine of hell? I don't HAVE a doctrine of hell. I simply believe what the Bible says. Here is Matthew 13:42 (NIV) "They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth." So this says that there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth at the...

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It would have been so easy for you to say "You are right, the Bible doesn't say that people send themselves to Hell".

It's described as "perishing", "destruction", "being no more", "being dead", "death". Your mistake is assuming that I have made a mistake. I just believe what the Bible says instead of the traditional belief in eternal conscious torment in hell, which has no support in the Bible.

That is not what I said. I said "People send themselves to hell because they made a choice to not believe in Jesus Christ" is not in the Bible. And It Is Not. "Why do people go to hell?" and "Why are people condemned?" are two VERY different questions. The first question assumes that the...

What would happen if your fear of hell were removed? If you became convinced that the Bible does not say that some people go to hell when they die where they will be tormented alive for all eternity? I believe that those who have faith in Jesus Christ will inherit eternal life from him, and...

How did you solve this problem?

I believe that "They PERISH because they refused to love the truth and so be saved". This does NOT say "They will be tortured alive forever in hell because they refused to love the truth and so escape the eternal torturer."

Hello TOB, I am not the one who said that we have to take everything in the Bible literally. I believe that Jesus Christ was speaking metaphorically when He said "he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me". People who say that we must take everything in the Bible literally don't...

What do you mean by "hell"? I believe that whoever believes in Jesus Christ will not perish but will have eternal life. (John 3:16) I believe that whoever rejects Jesus Christ will perish and will not have eternal life. (John 3:16, restated as a negative) Concerning hell, I believe what Jesus...

You can see it if you review the thread. My point was that people often say things that aren't supported by scripture, and we should always check the scriptures. Kathi said "People send themselves to hell because they made a choice to not believe in Jesus Christ." I asked to see the Bible...

"For My flesh is true food, and My blood is true drink. He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me..." John 6:55 Literally.

I agree. Time will tell. But in the meantime, I believe that we can trust the Bible to mean what it says, and reject claims that do not agree with what it says. I agree. We choose who we serve, either the God of the Bible, or the gods of tradition.

I'm sorry Kathi, but none of those verses say "People send themselves to hell because they made a choice to not believe in Jesus Christ." I'm confident that if you look again you will see that they simply do not say that.

John the baptist said that the unrepentant would be burned up like chaff. That is the opposite of never being burnt up, but tormented forever by the flames. Matthew 3:12 This agrees with what Jesus taught in Matthew 7:14 and Matthew 10:28. (Also with every other place Jesus and the apostles...

Thank you. You can see for yourself that the Bible does not say "People send themselves to hell because they made a choice to not believe in Jesus Christ."

By Grace, thank you for the background on the Pentecost. Your post adds light to the account in Acts 2.