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  1. TimothyW

    Should Christians rethink Hell?

    "He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him." Proverbs 18:13 Why don't you give the podcast a listen and then give us your opinion of the debate?
  2. TimothyW

    Should Christians rethink Hell?

    The two sides (by definition) will never agree, but any of us can come to a closer understanding of the scriptures relating to hell. Thanks for agreeing to give this some thought.
  3. TimothyW

    Should Christians rethink Hell?

    You probably shouldn't. This thread is about the debate between Al Mohler and Chris Date, why don't you give the podcast a listen and then give us your opinion of the debate?
  4. TimothyW

    Should Christians rethink Hell?

    I agree
  5. TimothyW

    Should Christians rethink Hell?

    Actually, this thread is about the debate between Chris Date and Al Mohler. Why don't you listen to the podcast and give us your opinion of the debate?
  6. TimothyW

    Should Christians rethink Hell?

    Deleted post. Perhaps it is better to not respond.
  7. TimothyW

    Should Christians rethink Hell?

    Hi WIP, Separation from God would be a bad thing, but then what do you make of all of the destruction passages in the Bible? (Matt 10:38, Matt 18:14, Matt 21:41, Luke 20:16, John 3:16, John 3:36, John 10:10, John 17:12, Romans 2:12, Romans 14:15, 2 Cor 2:15, 2 Thess 1:9, 2 Peter 3:6, 2 Peter...
  8. TimothyW

    Should Christians rethink Hell?

    Thanks Butch, I appreciate that. I've looked at the major verses that the ECT group uses. I don't know of any that they use that I haven't seen. Matthew 25:46 says that there is eternal punishment, which I agree with and this verse also says that only the righteous get to have eternal life and...
  9. TimothyW

    Should Christians rethink Hell?

    At the end of the discussion Dr. Mohler and Chris Date both said something I completely agree with. Whether a person believes that God sends the lost to hell to be tormented forever or whether the lost are destroyed, we all have to recognize and accept that what God will do is completely just...
  10. TimothyW

    Should Christians rethink Hell?

    I missed this post before. I really want to give you a proper answer. I believe that the dead will be resurrected for judgment. I believe that this is common Christian Doctrine, but here is some of the Scriptural support for my belief: "Do not marvel at this, for an hour is coming when all who...
  11. TimothyW

    Should Christians rethink Hell?

    [Response to deleted comments] Jude 1:7 says that the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah is an example of the of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire. Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed in one night, yet it is an eternal destruction. The way I understand this is eternal destruction is...
  12. TimothyW

    Should Christians rethink Hell?

    Thanks. I believe the Scriptural evidence is much more for eternal destruction than it is for eternal life in hell being tormented alive forever. (Edited, A&T Guidelines: Subsequent opposing responses should include references to supportive scripture relevant to the thread and offer explanation...
  13. TimothyW

    Should Christians rethink Hell?

    You have it. When they are destroyed on the day of judgment. 2 Peter 3:7 But by the same word the heavens and earth that now exist are stored up for fire, being kept until the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly. So, after reading 2 Peter 3:7 do you still believe that the ungodly are...
  14. TimothyW

    Should Christians rethink Hell?

    (Edited, ToS 2.4, rudeness. It is perfectly acceptable and is common practice in a debate to ask for words to be defined. Even words that seem to be commonly understood. Obadiah) Here is the definition of destroyed, and the definition of destroyed is what I mean by destroyed: "put an end to...
  15. TimothyW

    Should Christians rethink Hell?

    I don't accept Bill Wiese's account. The Bible does not say that the Lake of Fire destroys a person over and over, so yes. I am sure that the lake of fire doesn't destroy over and over. There is no reason to even think that it does except to resolve a difficulty with the doctrine of eternal...
  16. TimothyW

    Should Christians rethink Hell?

    What is the problem with being destroyed, is that your question? I would think that would be self evident. The problem with being destroyed is that after you are destroyed, you have been destroyed. The great about NOT being destroyed is that you are not destroyed. I find it odd that a Christian...
  17. TimothyW

    Should Christians rethink Hell?

    Let me try again to see if I can help you understand. It was said that the view that the ungodly are destroyed removes the need for salvation. Let's look at that. The ungodly are destroyed. Do they not need salvation? What will happen to them in our view if they are not saved? They will be...
  18. TimothyW

    Should Christians rethink Hell?

    I've been to San Francisco, it's nice. I like the woods north of the bridge. But I've never seen New York.
  19. TimothyW

    Should Christians rethink Hell?

    Checking the map once in a while would be a good thing, ma'am. We don't want to misread that. Jesus said the narrow road leads to life and the other road leads to destruction, it wouldn't be good to get them mixed up. (Or let someone tell us the wide road doesn't really lead to destruction, but...
  20. TimothyW

    Should Christians rethink Hell?

    Yes sir!
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