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Um, in that version of the post, I said it was an observation of what people have done in church, as in today. So, you ought not be trying to make me say it was a quote of Paul. I'm not sure how you got a version of my post which was deleted nearly immediately after posting, but provably it was...

Uh, yeah. And that is definitely a problem, too. But I'll point out that Paul is not reprimanding the pastor at Corinth for doing something, he Paul, had already said not to do (1Corinthians 11:2) so that *particular* pastor was not a Pedophile, or woman seducer; rather the problem was the...

Ephesians 5:21 -- submit to one another. Everyone is in submission to 'another'; It is not just said, wives to the husbands -- but also husbands love the wives as Christ gave himself up for her. And, note carefully, the husband is not master over his own body, but the wife; 1Corinthians 7:4...

Hi EzRider, Jesus' parables, whenever he describes them, always have all elements explained as being various kinds of people and messages. So; in Matthew 13:33, you've only described 1 element, the "leaven"; and said it is "grace", and overlooked the rest of the parable's elements. In my...

Leaven is corruption, or the decay, of the bread flour; it is a consumer of the bread; and in the sense that something gets destroyed, it may always be understood to be negative. But then, so would a shepherd be that occasionally eats a sheep -- for the sheep dies, yet, that's exactly what...

John, I still think you are fine theologically, and biblically. All I said is that the woman was sneaky. Eg: The kingdom of God is often understood as the bride (woman) that Jesus (the king of the kingdom) marries. She (the kingdom) is sometimes observed 'sneaking' things in. Note, it was...

That's just like an exceptional woman, Reba, sneaking things in: Matthew 13:33... :biggrin2 It's the exception that makes the rule, does it not ? But, just to be conciliatory -- we could not make SOURDOUGH bread this way, for that by definition requires and 'older' leaven. Good Men are more...

A little concordance for the word Leavened (in Greek ζυμα) , ( The Hebrew uses different word roots for leavened, unleavened, and leavened bread -- so, I am sticking with the Greek which is simpler; but if you know Hebrew, cross checking the following verses and adding any other verses that the...

OK. What point was made? I must be misreading what you said or something. You said that 'ignorance is never an excuse for guilt' and then Deborah asked for a biblical example of where someone was punished for breaking the law, eg: in spite of ignorance. Somehow, I missed where you showed an...

That thinking would be approached closest by the verse Romans 5:14. However, Even in Romans, I don't see where it's given as a punishment for their own transgression (having of sin). and I'd be interested in whether or not you could come up with a stronger example. For: People can suffer...

There is one element, that I think is being slightly overlooked; and perhaps would be worth noting: Heav'n has no Rage, like Love to Hatred turn'd, Nor Hell a Fury, like a Woman scorn'd. ( William Congreve ). In Genesis, we are told that God brought to Adam, all the ''hayat" (eg...

` :) Yes. But as a monolog, it was not stated in the form of the Greatest commandment upon which all others come; rather it was stated in an obscure form about some fruit. I agree, at least in a general way. This is where I become unsure. There is something subtle going on. Adam, if not...

There is no promise by God that eating the fruit of the knowledge of Good and Evil would give that knowledge before death, nor even that the knowledge would be the cause of death. But, there was a warning that eating the fruit would bring two deaths. Adam was not deceived; So, I tend to think...

:chin What an amazing experience that would have been.... The tower of Babel was a situation where man said, "Let us", "Let us", "Let us", so that all that was being decreed was exclusively man centered around a tower meant to reach to heaven without God. And in response, God says something...

Yes. And that's found in both the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts, without exception. eg: Elohym and Theoi are plurals meaning, gods; eg: as in Genesis 3:5 ; and so may or not include God as Father... a subtle point, indeed. :)

My thoughts are nearly the same, Clark. :) There is often a temptation to "take the easy way", and do something evil so that Good (or perceived good...) might come of it. The Devil merely wants us to do evil, though, so that God will not protect us as much. It gives him a better chance to...

:) I've sometimes seen translators choose the word "awe" in place of "fear" when translating that the beginning of wisdom is fear of the Lord. Translating with "awe" removes the English suggestion/weak connotation that things which are feared are automatically to be conquered rather than...

One post couldn't possibly sum it all up. Sacrifice is the foundation of communication, Chopper. In order to listen to a friend, someone must sacrifice the use of their ear for a time, and a portion of their brain and memory which could all be doing other tasks like listening to music with...

And what's you point ? I never said God would spare us, I said: whether or not God chooses to destroy us as a nation he does not have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah. If he chooses not to, then his act of Mercy simply does not require an act of repentance for the act of the Justice he...

hmmm.... I think I know at least 10 devout Christians. Whether God decide to destroy us as a country or not, I don't think he needs to apologize to Sodom. Genesis 18:32 Then he said, "May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak just once more. What if only ten can be found there?" He answered...