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    Bible Study The Second Death

    Mr Taylor wrote the OP, yes -- but that doesn't make him the OP. It gives him the right to steer it. At the time I wrote to him, he hadn't said anything about the "natural man" -- so I clearly wasn't trolling. I was answering the question as he wrote it. eg: I'm not a mind reader. I see no...
  2. About the Son of God

    Bible Study The Second Death

    Where did the OP say that we were talking only about the "natural" man dying ? The title was about the second death, and right there in Genesis where I pointed to it -- is where a double death is first defined in the bible. As far as dying at least twice, I mean, come on and read the Gospels...
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    Bible Study Our Body/Our Spirit

    Yes, I'm not contradicting you. I'm pointing out that scripture itself doesn't define what is meant by the two different words for spirit. There can be differences between spirits, even though they are generically called "spirit". That's all. And I went in and looked at the original...
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    Bible Study The Second Death

    Errata: Sorry a l was a little dyslexic in copying a verse number,eg: that was was supposed to cite: 2Samuel 1:1 "after the death of Saul". NOT 1Samuel 2:1 The same word transliterated from Hebrew, מות (mOwt / Strongs #4191) , is used back in Genesis to claim you will "surely" die -- but in...
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    Bible Study Luke 4:3-5

    Hmmmm.... Clark, I don't think creating bread is a sin. eg: Jesus did it to feed 5000 and 4000 people in deserted places later. And notice carefully scripture makes it very clear they were deserted locations, or wilderness, such that the people could not possibly find anything to eat: Matthew...
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    Bible Study The Berean

    Walter&Debbie, I've heard of the Bereans, although I am not in a modern Berean Church, I do share the philosophy of the first Bereans. Suna Ihm, I see 7 posts on your icon on this day. :) Blessings to you and welcome to the forums as you start sharing with all of us here on cf.net. Your...
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    Bible Study Our Body/Our Spirit

    That's probably a mistake. Although scripture does use hyperbole, and parable, both.... there is likely something more that you've overlooked. Let me start out by agreeing, however, that it is very reasonable to consider Hades as equivalent to the grave. But, the grave is not only the pit of...
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    Bible Study Luke 4:5-8

    Hi Hermit, I think much of what you said is very well spoken. But I am not sure what you mean by "lifeforms also feed of the fearful (to ascertain authority) and the dead (all sustinence for the body)." Do you have an example, of how "feed of the fearful" and "ascertaining of authority" go...
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    Bible Study The Second Death

    That's very simple. Death is a transformation. One can die to themselves, they can also die to Christ, they can also die in the flesh, or in the spirit. Even Nature, from which we can reason to God, from, teaches us that some deaths are in order to start a new life. for: A seed can die and...
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    Marrying 10 Times

    :lol Oh no... it's not THAT easy.... I might agree that he could be accused of "delaying" -- but where is the proof that he had legally broken it, rather than being within his rights ? for, how long is "too long" according to scripture ? I would think that's more along the lines of "whenever"...
  11. About the Son of God

    Marrying 10 Times

    It's not a well explained thought. In Jewish writings, which are coming to mind especially because Lewis shows a star of David in his icon, and the topic he is speaking about has many Jewish rabbinical undertones; so I suppose I chose my words subconsciously on the basis of my memory jogging me...
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    Marrying 10 Times

    :sad Sorry if I stepped on toes.... I'm a bit quick to post sometimes. I never really thought about that contract carefully. But I'm not quite sure that would be considered "incest". I mean, Adam and Eve's child (Seth) could not be accused of incest just because he married a sister -- for...
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    Marrying 10 Times

    Must be a vague Strong's number definition.... I'd like to add a little clarification, for Strongs isn't wrong -- but vague: Soma just means "body", as in anything which has a discernible shape, eg: it could be bones, hair, and/or flesh... or most often, it means all of it together -- formed...
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    Marrying 10 Times

    Lewis, you are indeed correct. They do become one flesh through sexual union. Even prostitutes become one flesh.... That doesn't mean they are married, and that's what is becoming a sticking point here. Jesus made the distinction when he refused to say : "Those who become one flesh, let no...
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    Bible Study What fruit do you think the Tree of Life produced?

    ? I've totally lost your train of thought. :oops2 How can the Holy Spirit be a fruit of himself ? or where does the idea that the persons of the trinity are fruits of the Spirit come from, biblically or from any of the early creeds in Christianity (eg: TOS of the site mentions creeds, so I'm...
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    Bible Study What fruit do you think the Tree of Life produced?

    :) Amen. Quick note: the definite article ("the") quoted in your "[the] tree of life" is a translators insertion, and isn't in any original languages of the scriptures which I just checked. The original sentence is probably more properly translated as, "a tree of life, bearing twelve...
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    Bible Study The first day and the TRUE age of the Earth

    Hmmm.. that's in fact what I think the text explicitly says, eg: "the first day". Actually, if you are thinking chronologically, that things needed for a night and day didn't occur until verse 5, that's not the only way to look at it; For a day to happen, scientifically, we are talking...
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    Is It Possible For A Christian To Fall From "Grace"?

    Grace is a relationship of both gift and thanks. In the OT you find quotes like these: Exodus 34:9, Genesis 19:19. (and many others) etc. In English, Grace is often translated as "favor", but that's vague -- the word means both "thanks" and "gift" ; it is both "reciprocation" and "favor". It...
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    Why do christians have to be so judgemental and self righteous ?

    :lol Oh!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUT -- If what I *had* was marriage, than what my parents *have* is pure bliss, and what my grandparents had was absolutely made in heaven. I assume from your comment that you've had a more traditional marriage ? :chin So, let's see if any of this rings a bell in your...
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    Why do christians have to be so judgemental and self righteous ?

    Does it just lessen the memories of loud shells and bombs, and the like, getting stuck in your head? Mine isn't from war, but the sound of being screamed at for 17 to 18 hours straight....day after day for several years -- kinda got stuck in my head, and I wake up with it, often now. I tried...
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