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It was close to seven years for me. Betrayed by my own wife, and her family. Discovered the difference between a good actor, and true blue friendship. Oh yes, I know about money loss. But you have a wife, now, whom you are solidly married to -- congratulations. I'm not there yet -- I have...

Amen !! 1Corinthians 2, whole chapter ?? But, here (in bible study), at least -- I hope we are not talking about merely human wisdom which knows nothing of God at all, but rather find ourselves in a place where we recognize that people 'rationalize' and do things for petty and wrong (human)...

:) I think the plot line of the show was such that he was never debunked in the show, although -- television shows fall under the category of electronic trickery in the first place which I was carefully excluding.... No one ever certified that Francis was actually speaking, rather I think in...

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ummm..... really. Just because they claimed it? Or did you mean something more than that. :neutral I mean, if 4afaithfulone claimed to be speaking for God, you think she would automatically be without error just because she made the claim ?

:chin But, don't you think people (on average) would more likely believe the donkey ? ( Numbers 22:28-29 ) If a donkey and a woman were side by side, and speaking prophecies for all to hear in plain English (Certifiably with no trick electronics in the donkey), and you had to choose which of...

Yes, that's: 1Corinthians 7:15 The fact that a Christian spouse sanctifies an unbeliever is in the very same chapter at nearly the same place: 1Corinthians 7:13-14. However, sanctification is not salvation. It is merely a preparation. It is always possible that an unbelieving husband desires...

The actual word is "Pornea" -- a word which means all of fornication, adultery, incest, or any other number of perversions. Jesus made the 'except' clause in Herod's territory -- eg: Where John the baptist was killed on account of Herodias, eg: Philip's wife -- whom Herod had married while...

Let me first of all say that if you truly/strongly feel this way, that I appreciate your patience with me. Your demeanor has been very graceful in the face of what must have seemed harsh even though I don't intend it that way. It's not my place to judge you in regard to whether you share on...

I agree about Solomon, and although I have taken your exact stance regarding Adam and Eve in the past -- and I think it fairly astute, there is a subtle issue in your reply; and I'd like to set things as straight as I can for reference of my own thinking; (you may want to read the following post...

Ummm... well, probably not a joke. Read Paul, here: 1Timothy 2:14. There is another thread where I entered part way into this discussion before, ----EDIT---- with Adriel. Paul basically identifies certain details of the Genesis narrative, and indicates that Adam was not fooled because he was...

I don't disagree with you about this part although I am unsure of whether there is one tree or two in the midst of the Garden ; but if it were one tree, I am unsure if it bore one or many kinds of fruit. These are details worth looking into... In the Babylonian depictions, there is a single...

I wasn't trying to explain why it all happened, but only why the tree was placed there, and I did so to indicate what the tree's purpose was, and hence -- what the tree was expected to produce. Hmm.... In terms of biblical history, I think it likely that the tree was supposed to produce dates...

Hmmm... maybe it's a female thing Gary, as in some translations, it is said that Eve (but not Adam) saw it was for gaining wisdom: Genesis 3:6 But, I'm more inclined to think that knowledge is not identical with wisdom as you point out, and this is especially true when Hebrew and Greek...

I'm not sure what you mean by 'produce' ? I think the The tree of life was meant to preserve Adam's life. Adam had to have known what death was, so when the Devil said "You will not die if you all eat the fruit", there is an implied threat that is not necessarily from the fruit itself; eg: It...

I'm not sure irrational is necessarily wrong ... but then I suffer from anxiety, because -- well irrational happened too often... But, If he totally gets you -- then I think the issues involved (which I have seen, but not personally experienced) would only lie along the line that some men tend...

Angel. I know how anxiety can affect a persons ability to concentrate at school. I've been there. I have to spend some time each day, praying, just to maintain an equilibrium myself. Online school would definitely have been easier on me had I been able to go that route and I can very much...

I haven't. I have said, "Perhaps your marriage is not like mine." I was wondering how it was different, eg: doing 'compare' and 'contrast' for I certainly wouldn't want to give you advice which encourages you to duplicate what I went through in your own marriage. Yes, I'm clearly triggered...

Well it's been several days, so I suppose the thread may be ending now. I just wanted to say, Thank you, Adriel for posting this thread and taking the time to share with us your thoughts. :nod I enjoyed reading them as far as I understood them.

I never said " believe [you] don't understand it", by the way... I don't know for sure if you do or don't, but something does seem odd about your approach. I was concerned about the level you are bringing it down to, though, given that you have a "Christian: No", and specifically for the...