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  1. NewLifeInChrist

    Peter not the rock nor the first Pope

    1 Tim 5:19Do not receive an accusation against an elder except from two or three witnesses. Titus 1:5For this reason I left you in Crete, that you should set in order the things that are lacking, and appoint elders in every city as I commanded you— Heb 11:2For by it the elders obtained a good...
  2. NewLifeInChrist

    Peter not the rock nor the first Pope

    Acts 15:23They wrote this letter by them: The apostles, the elders, and the brethren, To the brethren who are of the Gentiles in Antioch, Syria, and Cilicia: Greetings. Acts 16:4And as they went through the cities, they delivered to them the decrees to keep, which were determined by the apostles...
  3. NewLifeInChrist

    Peter not the rock nor the first Pope

    Acts 2:17‘And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God, That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your young men shall see visions, Your old men shall dream dreams. Acts 4:5And it came to pass, on the next day, that their rulers, elders...
  4. NewLifeInChrist

    Peter not the rock nor the first Pope

    Matt 27:41Likewise the chief priests also, mocking with the scribes and elders, said, Matt 28:12When they had assembled with the elders and consulted together, they gave a large sum of money to the soldiers, Mark 7:3For the Pharisees and all the Jews do not eat unless they wash their hands in a...
  5. NewLifeInChrist

    Peter not the rock nor the first Pope

    Heb 5:6As He also says in another place: “You are a priest forever According to the order of Melchizedek”; Heb 7:1For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him, Heb 7:3without father, without mother...
  6. NewLifeInChrist

    Peter not the rock nor the first Pope

    The Greek word for "priest" is "ἱερεύς", not "πρεσβύτερος" (which is the Greek word for "elder"). Here are all the verses in the NT with the Greek word for "priest" Matt 8:4And Jesus said to him, “See that you tell no one; but go your way, show yourself to the priest, and offer the gift that...
  7. NewLifeInChrist

    Peter not the rock nor the first Pope

    I thought when you posted the following comment you were saying we did not all have equal access to God, but needed to go to God through others... we have formed very different worldviews, and through the lenses of which we only see what we wanna see in the Bible - to you, “all priests with...
  8. NewLifeInChrist

    Peter not the rock nor the first Pope

    Where in your Bible does it say we have priests? I would be surprised if you can point to even one verse. But if you can find one, please identify the verses that say that our access to God is through a priest. There's no way that POV is Biblical, otherwise the following Scripture would be...
  9. NewLifeInChrist

    Should we obey church leadership, or the Holy Spirit?

    At least we have substantial agreement on this point. No, it is not a metaphor. Yes it is literal. The adoption angle concerns God making His enemies His children with full rights. It doesn't supplant our spiritual birth that makes us literally His children. Our new nature was "created...
  10. NewLifeInChrist

    Should we obey church leadership, or the Holy Spirit?

    This could be seen as a reference to us being a "temple" except for the phrase "that they also may be in us" in John 17:21 that you quote above. This is one of many Scriptures that say we are "in Him" just as He is "in us", and they speak to us being intertwined together as an inseperable unit...
  11. NewLifeInChrist

    Should we obey church leadership, or the Holy Spirit?

    I agree with everything you are saying here. I would think it is obvious that if you're in an apostate church, you would choose to leave the church instead of staying in it and bucking its leadership. If that's not possible for some reason, resisting their false doctrine in an effective way...
  12. NewLifeInChrist

    Should we obey church leadership, or the Holy Spirit?

    When you're a member of a particular church, you need to submit to the leader(s) of the church. If you can't do that, you need to leave. After you leave, you are under no obligation to do what they say. It's just that simple.
  13. NewLifeInChrist

    Should we obey church leadership, or the Holy Spirit?

    The mysteries surrounding us being partakers of the divine nature (2 Pet 1:4), us being joined to the Lord, and us being one spirit with Him (1 Cor 6:17) are certainly grand, but I agree with you that this does not make us God or make us gods. The passage I quoted from John 17 tells us at least...
  14. NewLifeInChrist

    Should we obey church leadership, or the Holy Spirit?

    Now we are starting to get to the nub of the issue. Our oneness with God the Father and God the Son is not "unlike" Jesus' oneness with the Father. It is "just as" They "are one". In Jesus' High Priestly prayer, He said this... 20 “I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will...
  15. NewLifeInChrist

    Should we obey church leadership, or the Holy Spirit?

    I don't remember reading any Bible verses that say when God speaks to you, you are to hold Him at bay until you can verify what He says to you is found in Scripture. Yet, when we read what Jesus said about the Father who lived in His heart's insructions, He indicates that He heard loud and...
  16. NewLifeInChrist

    Should we obey church leadership, or the Holy Spirit?

    When I look at Scriptures that describe God leading people, I see unquivocal evidence of God through His Spirit telling people what He wants them to do and I see an expectation that they will do what He says. Integral to the concept of obedience is the concept that the follower can hear and...
  17. NewLifeInChrist

    Should we obey church leadership, or the Holy Spirit?

    You do know you are saying that God (who is Spirit) cannot be trusted, right? It is clear they reacted to God telling them by His Spirit what to do and what not to do. It is also clear that you object entirely to the concept that God interracts with us on a spiritual level. But He does. God is...
  18. NewLifeInChrist

    Should we obey church leadership, or the Holy Spirit?

    This, of course, is a discussion of only one of the Spirit's ministries, i.e., His teaching ministry. Imagine if God was giving you an "Ah ha!" moment and you were to say, "Wait a minute. I need time to find 'objective' evidence that what you are showing me is true before I'll accept it." That...
  19. NewLifeInChrist

    Should we obey church leadership, or the Holy Spirit?

    Ok, maybe I misunderestood you. Maybe you could explain, in a Biblical way, how you know these things are from the Spirit and not from yourself (or the devil). There are many people with lightbulb moments whose lightbulb moments can't be trusted. The same could be said about your lightbulb...
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