Bible Study Affirmations Of The Cross Part 2

[Soul man]

Believers who remain under the law seem to have a greater problem than just keeping the law. Their greatest problem is their ignorance of what happened at the cross. It is impossible to believe that our heavenly father, after going to all the trouble of getting Jesus on the cross to take care of the sin of humanity, would then allow religionists to set up their own law programs for making humans righteous. Paul firmly corrects this idea in the epistle to the Galatians.

The cross and preaching, Galatians 3:1-3
1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?

2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
A key to these verses is the line "before who's eyes Jesus Christ has been evidently set forth, crucified among you." It is unbelievable that people in that day, actual followers of Christ, could see Jesus dying on the cross and make his death null and void by continuing to observe the law.
Paul saw believers who continued to live under the law as having been bewitched.

The sad thing about law keepers today is that they see Christ dying to destroy sin and death and Satan's work and are still so confused over the scriptures that they prefer their own works of righteousness to what Christ did at Calvary. The problem with the law keeping believers is the gospel they have preached to them. Most law-keepers know little or nothing about the final Gospel. In fact, they feel robbed if anyone tries to take away their self effort religion. Law keepers, Paul says, want to be perfect in the flesh and that by their own self effort.

The final gospel proclaims the cross as a permanent reality. It is not a "come and go" act of God, it is the deepest and most everlasting aspect of truth there is in God. Yet there are many religionist who want to argue these facts The facts concerning the death of the Old Testament law are firmly bound up in two versus; Ephesians 2:15
Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; and Colossians 2:14.
Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
It all becomes a matter of what one wants to believe.

To me it would be impossible for any believer to find even an iota of salvation or any blessing through his law keeping. If he does, Paul would say it is a work of the flesh. Paul still asks the same question today: how can anyone see Christ dying on the cross and even want to add to it any of his own works?

Finally, Paul in these verses brings the whole issue down to a believers personal relationship with the Lord. He asked, "having begun in the Spirit, are you now made perfect in the flesh?" He says, you were saved by believing on the Lord Jesus Christ (you begun in the spirit); are you now figuring you will be perfect if you add the law and self effort to yourself salvation?

Once again, these verses show the importance of the final gospel given to Paul. Without Paul's message believers will always be confused and bewildered. Praise God, there are some ministers that are catching on to the fathers eternal plan and placing Paul's epistles foremost in their theology. This again is the true test of seeing in the Scriptures what is most valid for Christian growth. Unless we follow Paul, as he follows Christ, we will never reach the prize of the high calling.

 

[th1b.taylor]

Believers who remain under the law seem to have a greater problem than just keeping the law. Their greatest problem is their ignorance of what happened at the cross. It is impossible to believe that our heavenly father, after going to all the trouble of getting Jesus on the cross to take care of the sin of humanity, would then allow religionists to set up their own law programs for making humans righteous. Paul firmly corrects this idea in the epistle to the Galatians.

The cross and preaching, Galatians 3:1-3
1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?

2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
A key to these verses is the line "before who's eyes Jesus Christ has been evidently set forth, crucified among you." It is unbelievable that people in that day, actual followers of Christ, could see Jesus dying on the cross and make his death null and void by continuing to observe the law.
Paul saw believers who continued to live under the law as having been bewitched.

The sad thing about law keepers today is that they see Christ dying to destroy sin and death and Satan's work and are still so confused over the scriptures that they prefer their own works of righteousness to what Christ did at Calvary. The problem with the law keeping believers is the gospel they have preached to them. Most law-keepers know little or nothing about the final Gospel. In fact, they feel robbed if anyone tries to take away their self effort religion. Law keepers, Paul says, want to be perfect in the flesh and that by their own self effort.

The final gospel proclaims the cross as a permanent reality. It is not a "come and go" act of God, it is the deepest and most everlasting aspect of truth there is in God. Yet there are many religionist who want to argue these facts The facts concerning the death of the Old Testament law are firmly bound up in two versus; Ephesians 2:15
Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; and Colossians 2:14.
Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
It all becomes a matter of what one wants to believe.

To me it would be impossible for any believer to find even an iota of salvation or any blessing through his law keeping. If he does, Paul would say it is a work of the flesh. Paul still asks the same question today: how can anyone see Christ dying on the cross and even want to add to it any of his own works?

Finally, Paul in these verses brings the whole issue down to a believers personal relationship with the Lord. He asked, "having begun in the Spirit, are you now made perfect in the flesh?" He says, you were saved by believing on the Lord Jesus Christ (you begun in the spirit); are you now figuring you will be perfect if you add the law and self effort to yourself salvation?

Once again, these verses show the importance of the final gospel given to Paul. Without Paul's message believers will always be confused and bewildered. Praise God, there are some ministers that are catching on to the fathers eternal plan and placing Paul's epistles foremost in their theology. This again is the true test of seeing in the Scriptures what is most valid for Christian growth. Unless we follow Paul, as he follows Christ, we will never reach the prize of the high calling.

All of the useless debate where there should be none In Matthew 5:16-18 Jesus explained the whole thing and for the last two thousand years preachers have built Church Numbers on the false Gospel that Jesus did away with the Law... Not True!! Stop pulling verse 17 out of it's context and you will see the truth. Jesus did not come to abolish the Law, He came to fulfill it that He would be the perfect sacrifice and our sins could be forgiven, sins delineated by the Law, God handed over to Moses. The Law is the example we all must strive for to be found in Heaven aqfter the Rapture.

NO!!!!! Neither you nor I can do the Law but the moment we cease trying we prove we were never saved! Deluded, yes, but saved? Without turning your complete self over to God you are not saved, just made a fool of. (1John 2:6)

 

[Soul man]

All of the useless debate where there should be none In Matthew 5:16-18 Jesus explained the whole thing and for the last two thousand years preachers have built Church Numbers on the false Gospel that Jesus did away with the Law... Not True!! Stop pulling verse 17 out of it's context and you will see the truth. Jesus did not come to abolish the Law, He came to fulfill it that He would be the perfect sacrifice and our sins could be forgiven, sins delineated by the Law, God handed over to Moses. The Law is the example we all must strive for to be found in Heaven aqfter the Rapture.

NO!!!!! Neither you nor I can do the Law but the moment we cease trying we prove we were never saved! Deluded, yes, but saved? Without turning your complete self over to God you are not saved, just made a fool of. (1John 2:6)

That I would agree with, He did fulfill the law. There was no life in the law even if they could keep it.
Galations 3:21,
Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.


There was no face-to-face, nature-to-nature, spirit-to-spirit relationship we have. It was a life of obedience to the law or disobedience, a God-to-people relationship.
Hebrews 8:10.
For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:.

No birthing, none of His Fatherly attributes. When you remove His Fatherly attributes, all you have is a dreadful Old Testament God.
He had His Fatherly attributes in the Old Testament, but could not express them to humanity that had a sin nature not akin to His nature. So thank God we now have the cross and the born again have the nature of God "in Christ."

 

[th1b.taylor]

That I would agree with, He did fulfill the law. There was no life in the law even if they could keep it.
Galations 3:21,
Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.


There was no face-to-face, nature-to-nature, spirit-to-spirit relationship we have. It was a life of obedience to the law or disobedience, a God-to-people relationship.
Hebrews 8:10.
For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:.

No birthing, none of His Fatherly attributes. When you remove His Fatherly attributes, all you have is a dreadful Old Testament God.
He had His Fatherly attributes in the Old Testament, but could not express them to humanity that had a sin nature not akin to His nature. So thank God we now have the cross and the born again have the nature of God "in Christ."

You speak as a man that does not see Jesus in the Old Testament, a.k.a. The Bible, before the 27 Commentaries were written. Stay in the Commentaries for a moment, it is important; Look at the first three verses of the Book of John. There is nothing on this Earth that the Father did not create through Jesus, the Son. Jesus is the God that, with His finger, wrote the two sets of tablets that are given to Moses in the Book of Exodus.

And in Chapter 3, you do not see Jesus walking in the Garden with Adam? The father never left the throne, never will. You need to leave the Commentaries alone and study on what they speak on, the Bible that was delivered to the Jewish believers.

 

[Jim Parker]

Believers who remain under the law seem to have a greater problem than just keeping the law. Their greatest problem is their ignorance of what happened at the cross. It is impossible to believe that our heavenly father, after going to all the trouble of getting Jesus on the cross to take care of the sin of humanity, would then allow religionists to set up their own law programs for making humans righteous. Paul firmly corrects this idea in the epistle to the Galatians.
The cross and preaching, Galatians 3:1-3
1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? 2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
A key to these verses is the line "before who's eyes Jesus Christ has been evidently set forth, crucified among you." It is unbelievable that people in that day, actual followers of Christ, could see Jesus dying on the cross and make his death null and void by continuing to observe the law.

I have never met a Christian who taught that Christians have to keep the law of Moses and be circumcised or who actually tried to do so. That's what Paul was talking about in the letter to the Galatian church.

SO, what are you talking about?
Do you know of Christians today who try to keep all the laws of Moses?
If so, who are they?


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