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Elijah674
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The thought here is not that angels, both good or bad, cannot appear in another form, as has been documented through the Bible. But that it is only done as God allows it to be done as we will see on down. And we will see that it is God who takes the heat for even allowing evil angels to work evil! He gives satan & his evil angels freedom until evil is fully finished.
But what we need to zero in on is who is and who was required to be SPIRITUALLY [REBORN, BORN *AGAIN*] as Christ Requires in John 3:3-8! And if they are not, whose spirit controls them?
We see that after Adam sined, he was condemned to Eternal Death! And the Holy Spirit left him & now He was the force to win him back again! (Rev. 14:6 Plan) Which is CONDITIONAL! (see Gen. 6:3) STRIVING is the work seen there! [TO GET BACK IN these ones] Ok: Now, seeing that He.. the Holy Spirit could not do so, what eveil spirit did take over 'in' these lost ones?? (compare Gen. 4:7 'DESIRE') Let's go on some & see if we can understand?
Heb. 1
[6] And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
[7] And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels [spirits,] and his ministers a flame of fire.
[8] But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Heb.11
[13] But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?
[14] Are they not all ministering [spirits], sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?
Psalms 104
[4] Who maketh his angels [spirits]; his ministers a flaming fire:
(Surely angels cannot be studied with out studying 'spirits as seen over & over in Gods Word.)
Eph. 6
[11] Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
[12] For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against [spiritual] wickedness in high places.
Exod. 31
[3] And I have filled him with the spirit of God, in wisdom, and in understanding, and in knowledge, and in all manner of workmanship, ..'
(if one has the Spirit of God, huh!)
1 Kings 22
[19] And he said, Hear thou therefore the word of the LORD: I saw the LORD sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing by him on his right hand and on his left.
[20] And the LORD said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramoth-gilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner.
[21] And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will persuade him.
[22] And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.
[23] Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee.
(again! God gives freedom for evil to play out, He takes the heat for total freedom of Worship! satan & his still live on until it is all finished! Obad. 1:16 And lets see another 'spirit, evil angel!)
2 Cron. 18
[19] And the LORD said, Who shall entice Ahab king of Israel, that he may go up and fall at Ramoth-gilead? And one spake saying after this manner, and another saying after that manner.
[20] Then there came out a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will entice him. And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith?
[21] And he said, I will go out, and be a [lying spirit] in the mouth of [all his prophets]. And the LORD said, Thou shalt entice him, and thou shalt also prevail: go out, and do even so.
[22] Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil against thee.
John 4
[23] But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father [in spirit] and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
[24] God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. (If one has the Holy Spirit in the FIRST Place? John 3:3-8 + Acts 5:32)
OK: Both Jehovah & Christ God have an Image which man were created after. And we read here that God is a Spirit, Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost.
When Adam was created flawless he needed no re/born again requirement. He was created in the Image of both Jehovah * Christ God, and he was filled full of the Holy Spirt God. For now after sin, HE BECAME NAKED OF THE RIGHTOUSNESS OF CHRIST! Which was his at creation! Matt. 22:11's Wedding Garment! & Gen. 3:11 Who told thee that thou wast naked?
And from there on?? All who sined the full sin against the Holy Ghost became the son's of satan's fatal fallen, and they never again knew anything more of the Holy Spirits Striving, but became the servants of satan with their whole 'DESIRE' being to serve him. And Cain in Gen. 4:7 was the first full fledged convert as a son of satan. Matt. 12:31-32.
---Elijah
But what we need to zero in on is who is and who was required to be SPIRITUALLY [REBORN, BORN *AGAIN*] as Christ Requires in John 3:3-8! And if they are not, whose spirit controls them?
We see that after Adam sined, he was condemned to Eternal Death! And the Holy Spirit left him & now He was the force to win him back again! (Rev. 14:6 Plan) Which is CONDITIONAL! (see Gen. 6:3) STRIVING is the work seen there! [TO GET BACK IN these ones] Ok: Now, seeing that He.. the Holy Spirit could not do so, what eveil spirit did take over 'in' these lost ones?? (compare Gen. 4:7 'DESIRE') Let's go on some & see if we can understand?
Heb. 1
[6] And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
[7] And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels [spirits,] and his ministers a flame of fire.
[8] But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Heb.11
[13] But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?
[14] Are they not all ministering [spirits], sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?
Psalms 104
[4] Who maketh his angels [spirits]; his ministers a flaming fire:
(Surely angels cannot be studied with out studying 'spirits as seen over & over in Gods Word.)
Eph. 6
[11] Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
[12] For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against [spiritual] wickedness in high places.
Exod. 31
[3] And I have filled him with the spirit of God, in wisdom, and in understanding, and in knowledge, and in all manner of workmanship, ..'
(if one has the Spirit of God, huh!)
1 Kings 22
[19] And he said, Hear thou therefore the word of the LORD: I saw the LORD sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing by him on his right hand and on his left.
[20] And the LORD said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramoth-gilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner.
[21] And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will persuade him.
[22] And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.
[23] Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee.
(again! God gives freedom for evil to play out, He takes the heat for total freedom of Worship! satan & his still live on until it is all finished! Obad. 1:16 And lets see another 'spirit, evil angel!)
2 Cron. 18
[19] And the LORD said, Who shall entice Ahab king of Israel, that he may go up and fall at Ramoth-gilead? And one spake saying after this manner, and another saying after that manner.
[20] Then there came out a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will entice him. And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith?
[21] And he said, I will go out, and be a [lying spirit] in the mouth of [all his prophets]. And the LORD said, Thou shalt entice him, and thou shalt also prevail: go out, and do even so.
[22] Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil against thee.
John 4
[23] But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father [in spirit] and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
[24] God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. (If one has the Holy Spirit in the FIRST Place? John 3:3-8 + Acts 5:32)
OK: Both Jehovah & Christ God have an Image which man were created after. And we read here that God is a Spirit, Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost.
When Adam was created flawless he needed no re/born again requirement. He was created in the Image of both Jehovah * Christ God, and he was filled full of the Holy Spirt God. For now after sin, HE BECAME NAKED OF THE RIGHTOUSNESS OF CHRIST! Which was his at creation! Matt. 22:11's Wedding Garment! & Gen. 3:11 Who told thee that thou wast naked?
And from there on?? All who sined the full sin against the Holy Ghost became the son's of satan's fatal fallen, and they never again knew anything more of the Holy Spirits Striving, but became the servants of satan with their whole 'DESIRE' being to serve him. And Cain in Gen. 4:7 was the first full fledged convert as a son of satan. Matt. 12:31-32.
---Elijah
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