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Are what we consider TRUTHS concrete or are they subjective?

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without fail every other day I find people searching for truth before they believe things.
Are our truths entirely concrete or are they subjective and change with more modern thought processes.

Is there any point looking for THE truth?
 
I'm not sure what you're really asking. Maybe if you could be more specific about which truth(s) you're asking about?
 
WIP said:
I'm not sure what you're really asking. Maybe if you could be more specific about which truth(s) you're asking about?
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I see people looking for scientific evidence to believe spiritual things and they open Thierry bibles expecting to see black and white truths on every page.
Take for example women wearing head coverings as appropriate dressing for church services. This was accepted truth hundreds of years as as a general rule for all women. The real reason Paul wrote it was so women in the audience he wrote to would not be in church with shaven heads like he temple prostitutes at the time. It was appropriate then. It really is a truth in the minds of some now still women must cover their heads in worship. This truth is subjective...it changes in our minds as we gain understanding
Most of our truths in the bible we refer to as truths may well be exactly like that too
 
Chris said:
without fail every other day I find people searching for truth before they believe things.
Are our truths entirely concrete or are they subjective and change with more modern thought processes.

Is there any point looking for THE truth?
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Jesus is the way, the truth , and the life. The Truth is concrete it is imovable and unchangeable determined by God not man. That being said many make decisions based on their perception and that is not really true.
 
From I Don't Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Geisler and Turek:

What is Truth?

"Very simply, truth is 'telling it like it is.'
Truth can also be defined as 'that which corresponds to is object' or 'that which describes an actual state of affairs.'

There are Many Truths About Truth. Here are Some of Them:

1. Truth is discovered, not invented. It exists independent of anyone's knowledge of it. (Gravity existed prior to Newton.)
2. Truth is transcultural; if something is true, it is true for all people, in all places, at all times (2+2 = 4 for everyone, everywhere, at every time).
3. Truth is unchanging even though our beliefs about truth change. (When we began to believe the earth was round instead of flat, the truth about the earth didn't change, only our belief about the earth changed.)
4. Beliefs cannot change a fact, no matter how sincerely they are held. (Someone can sincerely believe the world is flat, but that only makes the person sincerely mistaken.)
5. Truth is not affected by the attitude of the one professing it. (An arrogant person does not make the truth he professes false. A humble person does not make the error he professes true.)
6. All truths are absolute truths. Even truths that appear to be relative are absolute. (For example, 'I, Frank Turek, feel warm on November 20, 2003' may appear to be a relative truth, but it is actually absolutely true for everyone, everywhere that Frank Turek had the sensation of warmth on that day.)

In short, contrary beliefs are possible, but contrary truths are not possible. We can believe everything is true, but we cannot make everything true"
 
Truth does not change but the attitude about a particular truth does change.
 
"Is there any point looking for THE truth?"

Sure, the Bible says to SEEK, and promises that you will find. ANd there IS "COncrete truth" - Jesus is the ONLY WAY by which humans can be saved, and FAITH in his sacrifice for the forgiveness, and REMOVAL of your sin is how it happens. THAT'S about as "concrete" as it gets.

Baptism Face up/Down - 1 Time/3 times - Immersion/Sprinkling - Three "Titles", or Jesus' name ONLY - Believers/Infants - Sacrament/ORdinance - Necessary/NOT Necessary for salvation - etc. can get REALLY SUBJECTIVE, and since the Holy Spirit doesn't BOTHER to clear up the confusion - which He COULD in a millisecond any time He chooses - it's apparently NOT all that important.
 
Bob Carabbio said:
"Is there any point looking for THE truth?"

Sure, the Bible says to SEEK, and promises that you will find. ANd there IS "COncrete truth" - Jesus is the ONLY WAY by which humans can be saved, and FAITH in his sacrifice for the forgiveness, and REMOVAL of your sin is how it happens. THAT'S about as "concrete" as it gets.

Baptism Face up/Down - 1 Time/3 times - Immersion/Sprinkling - Three "Titles", or Jesus' name ONLY - Believers/Infants - Sacrament/ORdinance - Necessary/NOT Necessary for salvation - etc. can get REALLY SUBJECTIVE, and since the Holy Spirit doesn't BOTHER to clear up the confusion - which He COULD in a millisecond any time He chooses - it's apparently NOT all that important.
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Thanks for the smile :yes
 
Bob Carabbio said:
"Is there any point looking for THE truth?"

Sure, the Bible says to SEEK, and promises that you will find. ANd there IS "COncrete truth" - Jesus is the ONLY WAY by which humans can be saved, and FAITH in his sacrifice for the forgiveness, and REMOVAL of your sin is how it happens. THAT'S about as "concrete" as it gets.

Baptism Face up/Down - 1 Time/3 times - Immersion/Sprinkling - Three "Titles", or Jesus' name ONLY - Believers/Infants - Sacrament/ORdinance - Necessary/NOT Necessary for salvation - etc. can get REALLY SUBJECTIVE, and since the Holy Spirit doesn't BOTHER to clear up the confusion - which He COULD in a millisecond any time He chooses - it's apparently NOT all that important.
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OR, maybe the Holy Spirit wants believers to actually seek the truth instead of just kicking back and having it handed to them in total.
 
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