Atheists VS. Christians

[turnorburn]

I had to post this, its from my brother in Colorado..

Brother I think I told you once before about a call for assistance that I received from another Christian thread. They were being attacked by a bunch of atheists. I was able to track one of those members back to an Atheist Forum out of Australia. And they did have meeting on that thread and discussed their plans of attack, how well different things did or didn't work, and how stupid Christians were to get caught up in all these fight emotionally so that everyone could see how stupid they really were because they got so emotional that they couldn't think straight.

turnorburn

 

[JoJo]

Unfotunately, I found this type of thing to be true when I used to be involved in a Christian chat room. The server was home to many categories and Atheism was one of them. On more than one occasion, I or another Christian member visited the Atheist chat room and read live conversations similar to the ones you've just described.

That's not to say that all atheists are out to provoke Christians. Every group has its radicals.

 

[turnorburn]

One of my other brothers told me that before he met the Master he would go from forum
to forum recruiting babes in Christ for the soul purpose of causing as many to fall as
he could, he wept when telling me a story about one of these kids turning his back
on Christ and destroying his life, the bible calls them wolves in sheep's clothing, false
teachers are nothing new they run rampant because we forgot to pay attention..


turnorburn

 

[JoJo]

Indeed, Satan is out to outwit us for sure and is certainly not above using people to do it,
but "we are not ignorant of his devices." (2 Corinthians 2:11)

 

[turnorburn]

My brother that told me this is a Pastor, these people play for keeps, after all they
have nothing to look forward to. The sad thing is, they act like they don't care,
don't care about the one that has the power to cast them into a hell they don't
believe in.

I just received this from my brother.

When I was trying to help out the one Christian Forum that was being attacked by the Atheists from the Atheist Forum, I found that they not only planned and coordinated their attacks, but they also often used the same screen name on the Christian Forums as they did on their Atheist Forum. Very often they used the same screen name on several Christian Forums and even posted the same post on several Christian Forums. This made it much easier to track them down...

turnorburn

 

[turnorburn]

Jesus died for atheists, he died for all sinners, God is no respecter of persons. Adolf Hitler
could have been forgiven if only he would have repented. :yes


turnorburn

 

[Sanitarium]

This whole thread refers to Anti-Theists who also happen to be Atheists. Atheism is a lack belief, and people act on their beliefs (ie. because of them), not the lack of them.

That's not to say that all atheists are out to provoke Christians. Every group has its radicals.

We must distinguish between the non-belief of Atheism and the belief of Anti-Theism, or we are liable to make misunderstandings like this ^

 

[Jon-Marc]

Saying "I'm a Christian" and actually being one are not necessarily the same thing. People believe themselves to be a Christian because they have been told this is a Christian nation, and they, therefore, are a Christian because of being an American. There are those who believe themselves to be a Christian because their parents were, because they were baptized as an infant, because they do good works, because they are a church member, because their religion says they are, and various other wrong reasons. I hear people say, "I've been a Christian all m y life." ALL their life? Were they born a Christian; some people do believe that.

Most of the "Christians could point to a time (even if they don't know the EXACT date) that they called on the Lord for forgiveness and was cleansed. Anyone who can't remember how it happened for them should make sure they KNOW as I do that it happened. I was born again on May 18, 1963 at 12"28 AM. Very few can be that exact, but you should be able to say, "I remember calling on the Lord and being saved!!"

 

[Guest]

We must distinguish between the non-belief of Atheism and the belief of Anti-Theism, or we are liable to make misunderstandings like this ^

I believe it can be helpful to distinguish between anti-theism atheism (i.e., "I believe God does not exist"). I do not believe a distinction between anti-theism and pseudo-atheism is helpful.

 

[JoJo]

"That's not to say that all atheists are out to provoke Christians. Every group has its radicals."

We must distinguish between the non-belief of Atheism and the belief of Anti-Theism, or we are liable to make misunderstandings like this ^

Where is my misunderstanding? Have I misunderstood that not all atheists are out to provoke Christians? Have I misunderstood that every group has its radicals? Have I misunderstood that atheism can be considered a group?

When I said I encountered this sort of activity (described in the first post) it was in a chat room entitled "Atheism." If I have a misunderstanding of what atheism is, it is because people have misrepresented themselves by association.

 

[animal]

We must distinguish between the non-belief of Atheism and the belief of Anti-Theism, or we are liable to make misunderstandings like this ^

I believe it can be helpful to distinguish between anti-theism atheism (i.e., "I believe God does not exist"). I do not believe a distinction between anti-theism and pseudo-atheism is helpful.

Also theism and Christianity. A lot of Christians seem to forget there are other religions. Many. With adherents with faith as justified as your own.

 

[lovely]

There are only two categories....

1. believer or follower of Jesus Christ
2. unbeliever or follower of satan/deception/self.

The unbeliever can be described in subcategories, but believe's should have the compulsion, by God's grace, to treat them all with the love no matter what they call themselves...we are commanded to love the brethren and our enemies. I think the most loving thing is to be ourselves and be honest. If there is an argument that we can not answer, then we should honestly say so and look into it with a heart to know God's truth and be taught by the Holy Spirit. If they are just causing strife, and picking on everything said to create discord, call them on it or remove ourselves from it so that we are not engaged in vain disputes. Just some thoughts. The Lord bless.

 

[Guest]

We must distinguish between the non-belief of Atheism and the belief of Anti-Theism, or we are liable to make misunderstandings like this ^

I believe it can be helpful to distinguish between anti-theism atheism (i.e., "I believe God does not exist"). I do not believe a distinction between anti-theism and pseudo-atheism is helpful.

Also theism and Christianity. A lot of Christians seem to forget there are other religions. Many. With adherents with faith as justified as your own.

This can also be a helpful distinction. I also agree Christians see to often be blind to the existence of other theistic faiths and religions in general.

With regards to justification, there may or may not be faiths which are as justified as Christianity. I have never not done any comparative studies to work such ideas through. If we discuss my own personal faith, I wouldn't be shocked to faith other Christians, Muslims, or people from other faiths who are even more justified in their beliefs than I am. There are a lot of people much wiser than myself.

Note: Oops. I neglected to include "and" between anti-theism and atheism. Though, I presume you and others caught that.

 

[turnorburn]

Saying "I'm a Christian" and actually being one are not necessarily the same thing. People believe themselves to be a Christian because they have been told this is a Christian nation, and they, therefore, are a Christian because of being an American. There are those who believe themselves to be a Christian because their parents were, because they were baptized as an infant, because they do good works, because they are a church member, because their religion says they are, and various other wrong reasons. I hear people say, "I've been a Christian all m y life." ALL their life? Were they born a Christian; some people do believe that.

Most of the "Christians could point to a time (even if they don't know the EXACT date) that they called on the Lord for forgiveness and was cleansed. Anyone who can't remember how it happened for them should make sure they KNOW as I do that it happened. I was born again on May 18, 1963 at 12"28 AM. Very few can be that exact, but you should be able to say, "I remember calling on the Lord and being saved!!"

June 11/1972 @ 12:20 Pm. Was My Born On day. :D

Thanks!

turnorburn