Babylon Planet, Earth Marriage of the lamb

[Ezekiel]

We here it is destroyed and full of things said below

Revelation 18
2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

But even Babylon has people of God that will go into heaven as He calls for them.

4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

Many seas, The interpretation of this sea is the sea above(space as many calls it). A collision in space destroys that planet

21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

Now we see the saints from Babylon in heaven praising God for SALVATION and other things

Revelation 19
1 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:

More praising

6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.

Now John sees earth and them saints ready

7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

As we read Revelation 14 we see the third Angel follows this destruction. This means that in the fourth trumpet this happens because the third Angel follows. Its a count down from 6,5,4,3,2,1 then the Sabbath the seventh. This will make Babylon much clearer for them that can see.

 

[Ezekiel]

Know this and the timing of Christ gathering of the saints into His Kingdom.

When you see the army's destroyed (Armageddon) because of the fire and brimstone mixed with blood from that planet, they will turn the weapons into plows and things, and practice war no more.

Revelations 8
7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.

Then the Sabbath comes. Begins with prayer

Revelation 8

1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

Saints are taken

Revelations 11
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

Then earth is destroyed

Revelation 16

17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.
19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.
20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.
21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

I see a New Heaven and 12 New Earths, the old has past away, The Spirit of God will flow on them. No more curse for it has past. No more dead sea, for when they pass they will go straight away into heaven for the doors are always open amend.

 

[KV-44-v1]

Many seas, The interpretation of this sea is the sea above(space as many calls it). A collision in space destroys that planet

" But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation, " - 2 Peter 1:20

Oh right, you believe your eisegesis and anything any supernatural entity says without verification and scrutiny. Of course.

 

[Ezekiel]

" But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation, " - 2 Peter 1:20

Oh right, you believe your eisegesis and anything any supernatural entity says without verification and scrutiny. Of course.

I believe in the truth, and that is Jesus. So thinking of that , but you believe in the interpretations that others have done and not asking Jesus for the truth and proper interpretation. If Peter believe Jesus and what He said he would have not died. Just as John believed and did not die and will never taste death. Books you should remove from your study.s being agnostic . Beginning with all Johns books just as them that set the Bible and letters of it that will fit themself s.

 

[Ezekiel]

" But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation, " - 2 Peter 1:20

Oh right, you believe your eisegesis and anything any supernatural entity says without verification and scrutiny. Of course.

Even with other interpretation that of companion bibles whom many use are close but not complete because first is Gods thought not yours. Strongs say probable a angel (really) is that a true interpretation . Look deeper.

David seen it, stars and planets. Cherubim and earth is moved by it .

Psalms
99 The Lord reigneth; let the people tremble: he sitteth between the cherubims; let the earth be moved.
2 The Lord is great in Zion; and he is high above all the people.

Then in the temple in heaven Gods shows star and a planet beside each one He created. Stars and planets round about the temple with man. WHEELS

Ezekiel 41
18 And it was made with cherubims and palm trees, so that a palm tree was between a cherub and a cherub; and every cherub had two faces;
19 So that the face of a man was toward the palm tree on the one side, and the face of a young lion toward the palm tree on the other side: it was made through all the house round about.

But yet Ezekiel has a better interpretation then all. As he describes what God showed him.

But you can't believe Ezekiel because it's his interpretation. Neither can you believe any interpretations because it's mans interpretation.

2 Peter 1 : 20

Two edge sword my friend.

What is Peter telling you then. God is the interpreter

 

[KV-44-v1]

I believe in the truth, and that is Jesus.

Then WHY don't you TEST THE SPIRITS like what 1 John 4:1-6 says??
You have demonstrated clearly, time and again, that you do NOT test the spirits, and eisegete often.
If you were like the Bereans and did NOT use EIGESIS you would KNOW that just because a supernatural entity tells you something, does NOT make their claim true. Demons are real and trick people.

When I use the term "demon" in this comment, its according to traditional definition, like how early Christians knew them to be and how the Bible refers to them, a morally-evil supernatural entity that used to be an angel (supernatural entity, NOT A HUMAN,
it USED TO BE in Heaven, that was created sin-free but REBELLED and FELL) not some redefinition like "illness" or "bad human" or whatever.

TEST THE SPIRITS according to the Bible.

So thinking of that , but you believe in the interpretations that others have done

Oh? Which interpretation?
If you read what the Bible says, read it in proper context, believe the words on the Page(s), and take it at face value, that's exegesis not eigesis.
Your beliefs about Ezekiel are very SCIENCE FICTION in nature. VERY red flag.

Scripture interprets Scripture. You may rely on men's interpretation, but I rely on the Bible's 'interpretation' of itself. God sets up what He wants us to get.
We should let WHAT WAS INTENDED when written guide us -- NOT FANTASTICAL, UNVERIFIABLE, sci-fi, US-generated interpretations!!

The apocryphon of John was NEVER written by the Biblical John, that is made known by the content. Nowhere in the Bible are these imaginary "planets" nor "giant arms coming from the earth".

HOW WILL YOU DEFEND the apocryphon of john? Doubt you can. Falsehoods do not survive scrutiny, as expected. Only REAL Truth survives.
Your apocryphon has FAILED again and again. It's not surviving. I refute, and you ignore and evade.

and not asking Jesus for the truth and proper interpretation.

Either your prayer wasn't answered "yes" , or you were praying to something you THOUGHT was Jesus but wasn't. Mabye you saw a supernatural entity and blindly believed it was Jesus.




The opposite approach to Scripture is ****EISE****gesis, which is the interpretation of a passage based on a subjective, non-analytical reading. The word eisegesis literally means “to lead into,” which means the interpreter injects his own ideas into the text, making it mean whatever he wants.
This you ^^? Yup.

Obviously, only ****EXE****gesis does justice to the text. ****EISE****gesis is a MISHANDLING of the text and often leads to a misinterpretation. Exegesis is concerned with discovering the true meaning of the text, respecting its grammar, syntax, and setting. Eisegesis is concerned only with making a point, even at the expense of the meaning of words.

Second Timothy 2:15 COMMANDS us to use ****EXE****GETICAL methods: “Present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.” An honest student of the Bible will be an ****EXE****GETE, allowing THE TEXT to speak FOR ITSELF. ****EISE****gesis easily lends itself to error, as the would-be interpreter attempts to align the text with his own preconceived notions. Exegesis allows us to agree with the Bible; eisegesis seeks to force the Bible to agree with us.

The process of EXE gesis involves 1) observation: what does the passage say? 2) FINDING the BIBLE'S 'interpretation' of ITSELF: what does the passage mean? 3) correlation: how does the passage relate to the rest of the Bible? and 4) application: how should this passage affect my life?

EISE gesis, on the other hand, involves 1) imagination: what idea do I want to present? 2) exploration: what Scripture passage seems to fit with my idea? and 3) application: what does my idea mean? Notice that, in EISEgesis, there is no examination of the words of the text or their relationship to each other, no cross-referencing with related passages, and no real desire to understand the actual meaning. Scripture serves only as a prop to the interpreter’s idea.

 

[KV-44-v1]

If Peter believe Jesus and what He said he would have not died. Just as John believed and did not die and will never taste death.

Where did Peter die in the Bible? source?
Bet you won't answer this Q.

Books you should remove from your study.s being agnostic .

Mmmm, if you think they are true, why does it seem you are telling me otherwise?

What do you mean by your word "agnostic"?



My rejection of UNPROVEABLE, UNVERIFIED sci-fi fairy tales of GNOSTICS does not make me "agnostic", it makes me like the Bereans described in the Bible.

Just because "knowledge" is thought to be "hidden" does NOT mean it is accurate.

Beginning with all Johns books just as them that set the Bible and letters of it that will fit themself s.

HOW did you VERIFY them to be written by the BIBLICAL JOHN????
Right, you didn't. You have NO backup.
You just see "John" written on the "label" and ASSUME that means it was written by John.

I'm sure someone could sell you liquid mercury in a water bottle, labelled as water, and you'd drink to your death!

 

[KV-44-v1]

interpretation

What did most of the Early Church - the Christians before us believe? You know (or don't), who made and believed the Nicene Creed, etc.
Definitely NOT this NEW STUFF you peddle, because your "secret knowledge " is made by MEN instead of coming from the Bible.

I see NO ONE, who has the Bible as their ULTIMATE Authority, and cites and BELIEVES the Early Church -- who believes your scifi theories about angels being planets and more.

 

[KV-44-v1]

Even with other interpretation that of companion bibles whom many use are close but not complete

What do you mean by "companion Bibles"?

I use pre-2000s NASB.

because first is Gods thought not yours.

And not yours, either!

Strongs say probable a angel (really) is that a true interpretation . Look deeper.

Cite it? What is Strongs calling an angel?

David seen it, stars and planets.

Cherubim and earth is moved by it .

Cherubim are supernatural, not physical. The Supernatural is not directly affected by the physical.

Psalms
99 The Lord reigneth; let the people tremble: he sitteth between the cherubims; let the earth be moved.
2 The Lord is great in Zion; and he is high above all the people.

Then in the temple in heaven Gods shows star and a planet beside each one He created. Stars and planets round about the temple with man. WHEELS

Ezekiel 41
18 And it was made with cherubims and palm trees, so that a palm tree was between a cherub and a cherub; and every cherub had two faces;
19 So that the face of a man was toward the palm tree on the one side, and the face of a young lion toward the palm tree on the other side: it was made through all the house round about.

But yet Ezekiel has a better interpretation then all. As he describes what God showed him.

But you can't believe Ezekiel because it's his interpretation. Neither can you believe any interpretations because it's mans interpretation.

2 Peter 1 : 20

Two edge sword my friend.

What is Peter telling you then. God is the interpreter

 

[Ezekiel]

Then WHY don't you TEST THE SPIRITS like what 1 John 4:1-6 says??
You have demonstrated clearly, time and again, that you do NOT test the spirits, and eisegete often.
If you were like the Bereans and did NOT use EIGESIS you would KNOW that just because a supernatural entity tells you something, does NOT make their claim true. Demons are real and trick people.

When I use the term "demon" in this comment, its according to traditional definition, like how early Christians knew them to be and how the Bible refers to them, a morally-evil supernatural entity that used to be an angel (supernatural entity, NOT A HUMAN,
it USED TO BE in Heaven, that was created sin-free but REBELLED and FELL) not some redefinition like "illness" or "bad human" or whatever.

TEST THE SPIRITS according to the Bible.

Oh? Which interpretation?
If you read what the Bible says, read it in proper context, believe the words on the Page(s), and take it at face value, that's exegesis not eigesis.
Your beliefs about Ezekiel are very SCIENCE FICTION in nature. VERY red flag.

Scripture interprets Scripture. You may rely on men's interpretation, but I rely on the Bible's 'interpretation' of itself. God sets up what He wants us to get.
We should let WHAT WAS INTENDED when written guide us -- NOT FANTASTICAL, UNVERIFIABLE, sci-fi, US-generated interpretations!!

The apocryphon of John was NEVER written by the Biblical John, that is made known by the content. Nowhere in the Bible are these imaginary "planets" nor "giant arms coming from the earth".

HOW WILL YOU DEFEND the apocryphon of john? Doubt you can. Falsehoods do not survive scrutiny, as expected. Only REAL Truth survives.
Your apocryphon has FAILED again and again. It's not surviving. I refute, and you ignore and evade.

Either your prayer wasn't answered "yes" , or you were praying to something you THOUGHT was Jesus but wasn't. Mabye you saw a supernatural entity and blindly believed it was Jesus.




The opposite approach to Scripture is ****EISE****gesis, which is the interpretation of a passage based on a subjective, non-analytical reading. The word eisegesis literally means “to lead into,” which means the interpreter injects his own ideas into the text, making it mean whatever he wants.
This you ^^? Yup.

Obviously, only ****EXE****gesis does justice to the text. ****EISE****gesis is a MISHANDLING of the text and often leads to a misinterpretation. Exegesis is concerned with discovering the true meaning of the text, respecting its grammar, syntax, and setting. Eisegesis is concerned only with making a point, even at the expense of the meaning of words.

Second Timothy 2:15 COMMANDS us to use ****EXE****GETICAL methods: “Present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.” An honest student of the Bible will be an ****EXE****GETE, allowing THE TEXT to speak FOR ITSELF. ****EISE****gesis easily lends itself to error, as the would-be interpreter attempts to align the text with his own preconceived notions. Exegesis allows us to agree with the Bible; eisegesis seeks to force the Bible to agree with us.

The process of EXE gesis involves 1) observation: what does the passage say? 2) FINDING the BIBLE'S 'interpretation' of ITSELF: what does the passage mean? 3) correlation: how does the passage relate to the rest of the Bible? and 4) application: how should this passage affect my life?

EISE gesis, on the other hand, involves 1) imagination: what idea do I want to present? 2) exploration: what Scripture passage seems to fit with my idea? and 3) application: what does my idea mean? Notice that, in EISEgesis, there is no examination of the words of the text or their relationship to each other, no cross-referencing with related passages, and no real desire to understand the actual meaning. Scripture serves only as a prop to the interpreter’s idea.

I have tested the spirit and I speak with many that have one of confusion.

 

[Ezekiel]

Where did Peter die in the Bible? source?
Bet you won't answer this Q.


Mmmm, if you think they are true, why does it seem you are telling me otherwise?

What do you mean by your word "agnostic"?



My rejection of UNPROVEABLE, UNVERIFIED sci-fi fairy tales of GNOSTICS does not make me "agnostic", it makes me like the Bereans described in the Bible.

Just because "knowledge" is thought to be "hidden" does NOT mean it is accurate.

HOW did you VERIFY them to be written by the BIBLICAL JOHN????
Right, you didn't. You have NO backup.
You just see "John" written on the "label" and ASSUME that means it was written by John.

I'm sure someone could sell you liquid mercury in a water bottle, labelled as water, and you'd drink to your death!

Jesus told John give the Churches that Revelation book and he did. Jesus also told John give the churches the Apocryphon of John and he did. Jesus told Peter that John will tarry till He returns and it wasn't any of his business. Satan stands and tries to destroy any truth that comes forth so the any one born may not develop in spirit. Satan is ignorance and darkness but Epinoia is the teacher of all and this is what all needs to develop so that communication with the father is possible.

 

[Free]

Jesus also told John give the churches the Apocryphon of John

No, he didn’t.

and he did.

No, he didn’t.

Jesus told Peter that John will tarry till He returns and it wasn't any of his business.

No, he didn’t.

Jhn 21:21 When Peter saw him, he said to Jesus, “Lord, what about this man?”
Jhn 21:22 Jesus said to him, “If it is my will that he remain until I come, what is that to you? You follow me!”
Jhn 21:23 So the saying spread abroad among the brothers that this disciple was not to die; yet Jesus did not say to him that he was not to die, but, “If it is my will that he remain until I come, what is that to you?” (ESV)

It’s explained right in the text.

Satan stands and tries to destroy any truth that comes forth so the any one born may not develop in spirit.

So that one may not come to know Christ and so be saved, or to keep a believer immature in their faith, yes.

Epinoia is the teacher of all and this is what all needs to develop so that communication with the father is possible.

No. That is not biblical and has nothing to do with Christianity.

The Apocryphon of John is a Gnostic text, and the teaching and promotion of Gnosticism is forbidden at Christian Forums.

 

[jasonc]

What is it with these ?

 

[KV-44-v1]

I have tested the spirit

OH? How? Your comments are evidence to the contrary.

and I speak with many that have one of confusion.

Are you asserting that spirits have spirits of confusion?? Whaaat?

. Jesus also told John give the churches the Apocryphon of John and he did. Jesus told Peter that John will tarry till He returns and it wasn't any of his business. Satan stands and tries to destroy any truth that comes forth so the any one born may not develop in spirit. Satan is ignorance and darkness but Epinoia is the teacher of all and this is what all needs to develop so that communication with the father is possible.

Tell me where. Tell me how you knew it was Jesus and not just men asserting things about Jesus.

I can say that "Jesus told me to build a cool-as-Prell Railgun and shoot a drone with it" and that claim would have the same weight as the claims in the Apocryfraud of "John" (no evidence John wrote it btw).

Satan stands and tries to destroy any truth that comes forth so the any one born may not develop in spirit.

Yes, and he loves replacing the subsequent void with Apocryfraud and gnostic lies.

Satan is ignorance and darkness

He is a fallen angel who was good but then rebelled against God and turned evil. I wonder what you think these words mean.
He does promote ignorance and darkness, you demonstrate your victimhood to him by FAILING to refute EVEN ONE of my points against your teaching.

You FAIL because these new stuff you believe is FALSE. ERROR cannot win against TRUTH. That's why your teaching has not even SCRATCHED my arguments against it!!

but Epinoia is the teacher of all and

What's this epi-whatever? Who is he? I wanna know!

this is what all needs to develop so that communication with the father is possible.

What do you mean? We can talk to God directly, no need for Gnostic beliefs. Actually, gnosticism would HURT. Not help.

 

[KV-44-v1]

Heh. The gnostic fell silent. Wonder why....