Both Old Israel & rome are End Time Players for satan!

[Elijah674]

Matt.23

[1] Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,
[2] Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: [DOCTRINE/WISE!]
[3] All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, [that observe and do;] but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

One can see NO problems seen here with doctrines! We will even see after their apostasy that they are compared to heavens Kingdom in Matt:25.

Matt.25

[1] Then [shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins,] which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
[2] And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.

Even heavens rebellion is compared to this parable (yes, it is a parable) of 1/2 at one time which were [ALL SLEEPING]. And surely Christ in Rev. 12 documents 1/3 were finally tossed! Leaving a REMNANT won back with the Everlasting Gospel (Rev. 14:6 + Eccl. 3:15) which came way ahead in FAITH of Christ's Atonement. But, the point is that BOTH heavens Kingdom + Old Israel had [VIRGIN DOCTRINES]!

And these of Rev. 17:1-5?? Are you kidding with me??
Rev.17

[1] And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:
[2] With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

We just read that Old Israel had VIRGIN DOCTRINES! See Psalms 77:13. And that is not these ones in the least!

[3] So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman (APOSTATE CHRIST/LESS CHURCH OF satan!) sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, [[full of names of blasphemy,]] having seven heads and ten horns.
[4] And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand [[full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:]]
[5] And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS [[AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.]]

Forum: There is a vast difference between these two Eternally Lost False Folds! One has false doctrines.. (now pay attention!) yet neither one has CHRIST IN THEIR CHURCHES! And in closing we will read John 12:42-43 first, & then Isa. 5 for Christ's ex/Virgin Vineyard.. for His factual Documentation!

First: John 12

[42] Nevertheless among the chief rulers also [[many believed on him;]] but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, [[lest they should be put out of the synagogue:]]
[43] [[For they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God.]]
(Did you get that? These had REAL BELIEVING FAITH, still yet they choose the church with its Virgin doctrines over Christ!)
Isa.5

[1] Now will I sing to my wellbeloved a song of my beloved touching his vineyard. My wellbeloved hath a vineyard in a very fruitful hill: (and these ones have false doctrines?? Hardly!)
[2] And he fenced it, and gathered out the stones thereof, and planted it with the choicest vine, and built a tower in the midst of it, and also made a winepress therein: and he looked that it should bring forth grapes, and it brought forth wild grapes.

[3] And now, O inhabitants of Jerusalem, and men of Judah, judge, I pray you, [betwixt me and my vineyard.]
(surely one can see what the problem was with Israel! It was not Christ's Virgin doctrines!)

[4] What could have been done more to my vineyard, that I have not done in it? wherefore, when I looked that it should bring forth grapes, brought it forth wild grapes?
...
[7] For the vineyard of the LORD of hosts is the house of Israel, ... .'

--Elijah

 

[Michae1]

Trying to read this reminds me of those preachers on the street corners who shout scripture at the top of their lungs telling everyone they are going to hell. You know they are talking about something in the Bible, but you are not exactly sure what.

It looks like a rant. If you want to reveal something in scripture, I would recommend using the same font, without all the color changes and switching to bold. It looks like a menu at Burger King or something.

A conclusion would be nice also. Something that supports the Title, and summarizes the scripture you are quoting.

Sorry if this comes off as being rudely critical, but I just wanted to throw some pointers out there that would allow the rest of us to comprehend what you are writing about. You appear to be really passionate about what you are writing about. I also assume it takes quite a bit of time to write all of that. It would be a shame if most of us tried to read it and came away with nothing but "Wha?"

 

[Elijah674]

Trying to read this reminds me of those preachers on the street corners who shout scripture at the top of their lungs telling everyone they are going to hell. You know they are talking about something in the Bible, but you are not exactly sure what.

It looks like a rant. If you want to reveal something in scripture, I would recommend using the same font, without all the color changes and switching to bold. It looks like a menu at Burger King or something.

A conclusion would be nice also. Something that supports the Title, and summarizes the scripture you are quoting.

Sorry if this comes off as being rudely critical, but I just wanted to throw some pointers out there that would allow the rest of us to comprehend what you are writing about. You appear to be really passionate about what you are writing about. I also assume it takes quite a bit of time to write all of that. It would be a shame if most of us tried to read it and came away with nothing but "Wha?"

This was Christ own in Matt. 10:5-6 + (pay attention to verse 25?)
[18] And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles.
[19] But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak.
[20] For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.
[21] And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
[22] And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
[23] But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.
[24] The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord.
[25] It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household?

 

[Strangelove]

Elijah.....just breath deeply and tell us what it is you are trying to say.

Breifly and concisely if you could.

I'm interested in the topic but your all over the place man.

 

[Elijah674]

Elijah.....just breath deeply and tell us what it is you are trying to say.

Breifly and concisely if you could.

I'm interested in the topic but your all over the place man.

What are you posting??? There was [ONLY SCRIPTURE HERE!]

Did you read Matt. 10:5-6??
If you did, you only have scripture that seem's to comfuse you?

Matt. 10:5-6 we find [the core] or the startup ones who made up Acts extended Church. These were ALL Jews! Matt. 25 were ALL SLEEPING JEWS! These in Matt. 10:5-6 were COMMANDED of Christ to go to [THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL.] In verse 15 you find that if they did not 'GO YE OUT TO MEET CHRIST' Their 'DOOR WAS SHUT'! Do you remember the pre/flood ones having a CLOSED DOOR? And the verse states that at the time of their Judgement, they would be found even WORSE THAN S.&G.

Still... THERE DOCTRINES WERE NOT THE ISSUE!

OK: Rome was not even on the scene yet. The 'Mystery Babylon' of Rev. 17;1-5 is catholic's TRASH IN DOCTRINES! And Paul states... [[DOCUMENTS]] in 2 Thess. 2:7 (Date A.D. 54) that [THE MYSTERY OF INIQUITY DOETH ALREADY WORK]' This was the start of Dan. 2's Image with rome on the scene that was only prophecy to be.

Still, both groups have Christ 'few' still there in ignorance. John 10:16 + our day of Rev. 18:4.

--Elijah

 

[Nathan]

I as well am very interested in trying to understand what you are saying. But it almost seems as though it is in snippets.

Are you translating from another language into English? I am wondering if that might be the breakdown in grammar.

It is not that your thoughts are not coming out, Elijah, its just that they are not making complete English sentences. And in an effort to try and not interpret what you are saying wrong, we are just asking you to type complete sentences.

 

[dadof10]

I as well am very interested in trying to understand what you are saying. But it almost seems as though it is in snippets.

Are you translating from another language into English? I am wondering if that might be the breakdown in grammar.

It is not that your thoughts are not coming out, Elijah, its just that they are not making complete English sentences. And in an effort to try and not interpret what you are saying wrong, we are just asking you to type complete sentences.

Here is the gist of his convoluted comments: "The 'Mystery Babylon' of Rev. 17;1-5 is catholic's TRASH IN DOCTRINES"

This is just another Jack Chick/Dave Hunt/anyotheranticatholic thread disguised as "[ONLY SCRIPTURE HERE!]". It's best just to ignore it, and him, as this will undoubtedly turn into yet another Catholic bashing thread. He will not quit posting his vitriol and we Catholics will not quit defending our Church from silly nonsense with no basis in fact or Scripture. It will shortly be shut down.

 

[Adstar]

Why don't we just all do one post and only one post in this forum and quote the whole bible in it and say nothing......

That's the logic of some people who quote scripture with no interpretation. Some seem to want to hide their message in some kind of bible code. Like they are saying if you cannot understand the message you don't have the Holy Spirit to understand. What they don't realise is that if the message is only posted to those who can get the message just by scriptures then these people don't need them to give them the message because they can just read the scriptures for themselves and understand it by themselves.

This makes them posting it here on the forums a waste of time.




All Praise The Ancient of Days

 

[Elijah674]

What are you posting??? There was [ONLY SCRIPTURE HERE!]

Did you read Matt. 10:5-6??
If you did, you only have scripture that seem's to comfuse you?

Matt. 10:5-6 we find [the core] or the startup ones who made up Acts extended Church. These were ALL Jews! Matt. 25 were ALL SLEEPING JEWS! These in Matt. 10:5-6 were COMMANDED of Christ to go to [THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL.] In verse 15 you find that if they did not 'GO YE OUT TO MEET CHRIST' Their 'DOOR WAS SHUT'! Do you remember the pre/flood ones having a CLOSED DOOR? And the verse states that at the time of their Judgement, they would be found even WORSE THAN S.&G.

Still... THERE DOCTRINES WERE NOT THE ISSUE!

OK: Rome was not even on the scene yet. The 'Mystery Babylon' of Rev. 17;1-5 is catholic's TRASH IN DOCTRINES! And Paul states... [[DOCUMENTS]] in 2 Thess. 2:7 (Date A.D. 54) that [THE MYSTERY OF INIQUITY DOETH ALREADY WORK]' This was the start of Dan. 2's Image with rome on the scene that was only prophecy to be.

Still, both groups have Christ 'few' still there in ignorance. John 10:16 + our day of Rev. 18:4.

--Elijah

OK: Here is Inspiration on Prophecy of old Israel which was Christ's Vineyard. We will forget rome for now, for they were not even around then. And if one want to know anything about them, all that needs to be done is read the daily news.
Isa.5

[1] Now will I sing to my wellbeloved a song of my beloved touching his vineyard. My wellbeloved hath a vineyard in a very fruitful hill:
(nothing wrong with the Land!)

[2] And he fenced it, and gathered out the stones thereof, and planted it with the choicest vine, and built a tower in the midst of it, and also made a winepress therein: and he looked that it should bring forth grapes, and it brought forth wild grapes.

[3] And now, O inhabitants of Jerusalem, and men of Judah, judge, I pray you, betwixt me and my vineyard.
(and if one cannot see the proplem here? They choose the land & the Church over the Christ of His Vineyard! It takes BOTH.)

[4] What could have been done more to my vineyard, that I have not done in it? ..
(well, and today??)

[7] For the vineyard of the LORD of hosts is the house of Israel, ..'

--Elijah