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Bottom Line Is This!

Rollo Tamasi

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There are many things in the Bible that are hotly debated topics.
One of them is the gifts of the Spirit as described in 1 Corinthians.
We are all one family in Jesus Christ.
We should not judge each other as Jesus will make us right.
If we believe or not that these gifts are active today is between each of us and God.
As for me, I have experienced these gifts first hand and believe that they are from God.
There is a movement going on today in Uganda that is somewhat comparable to what happened in the book of Acts.
It is true. There are first hand testimonies coming back to me that say it is true.
To those who have a difficult time believer in these gifts, I pray right now that God will reveal them to you and that you too will experience all that I experience through the power of the Holy Spirit. Amen!
 
There are many things in the Bible that are hotly debated topics.
One of them is the gifts of the Spirit as described in 1 Corinthians.
We are all one family in Jesus Christ.
We should not judge each other as Jesus will make us right.
If we believe or not that these gifts are active today is between each of us and God.
As for me, I have experienced these gifts first hand and believe that they are from God.
There is a movement going on today in Uganda that is somewhat comparable to what happened in the book of Acts.
It is true. There are first hand testimonies coming back to me that say it is true.
To those who have a difficult time believer in these gifts, I pray right now that God will reveal them to you and that you too will experience all that I experience through the power of the Holy Spirit. Amen!



Its no doubt the televised abuse of gifts of the Holy Spirit would turn many good and Godly people away from them, but they should remember two things first ; Gods word says to eagerly seek spiritual gifts and second there can't be counterfeit with out the real.

and teaching the church is better without them is like saying construction would be better if we only used hand tools and stayed away from earth movers and bulldozers and cranes
 
There are many things in the Bible that are hotly debated topics.
One of them is the gifts of the Spirit as described in 1 Corinthians.
We are all one family in Jesus Christ.
We should not judge each other as Jesus will make us right.
If we believe or not that these gifts are active today is between each of us and God.
Amen, Allen. Well said.

As for me, I have experienced these gifts first hand and believe that they are from God.
There is a movement going on today in Uganda that is somewhat comparable to what happened in the book of Acts.
It is true. There are first hand testimonies coming back to me that say it is true.
To those who have a difficult time believer in these gifts, I pray right now that God will reveal them to you and that you too will experience all that I experience through the power of the Holy Spirit. Amen!
I pray this is true, because I would love to see God's power truly poured out on His people in this last days, but I fear the "Holy Spirit outpouring" in Uganda is more like the "Toronto Blessing" or the "Brownsville Outpouring" which proved to have been largely, if not totally, fraud and hype
 
Amen, Allen. Well said.

I pray this is true, because I would love to see God's power truly poured out on His people in this last days, but I fear the "Holy Spirit outpouring" in Uganda is more like the "Toronto Blessing" or the "Brownsville Outpouring" which proved to have been largely, if not totally, fraud and hype




wow! you are by far the bravest man I have ever run into, you see the Holy Spirit is the only Spirit that can draw men to salvation, regardless of abuses and hype, people at both places you mentioned were called into relationship with God, they turned from their wicked ways and repented, calling on the name of Jesus to forgive them and save them, shall I now believe this can happen without the involvement of the Holy Spirit?

calling the work of the Holy Spirit a fraud is insanely dangerous, you could slander Jesus all day long and come out fairing better

even when I run into people abusing the gifts outside the guidlines of the bible, I would never dare to equate the miracles done in the name of Jesus to be the work of satan, the worker may very well be a worker of iniquity and lawlessness but never forget the gifts and God's calling are IRREVOCABLE!
(Roman 11:29)


Gods calling and the Spiritual gifts received
doesn't mandate what kind of a christian you become after being called, even Simon the sorcerer wanted the gifts, and would do just about anything to receive them, because he saw an opportunity to make money by them, we see this display today, profiting an extravagant life of luxury, from fame and fortune by displaying the gifts like a side show circus
 
My thought about the bottom line? Okay, thanks for asking!

There is a place from which the LORD bestows His blessing.
Yes, even the blessing of life forevermore.

Do we know this place? Some may. Others are still learning to know it, even others would not know it even if it were a snake that jumped up and bit them in the face.
Ooops, sorry about that last one. Where was I? :confused

The place... yes.
There is indeed a place. Here's the quote. There are only 3 lines in this chapter. Tiny little chapter, large truth revealed.
...for there the Lord commanded the blessing, even life for evermore. (KJV)

Google is your friend, find it. The place where the LORD bestows the blessing.

Let us return blessed, with our hearts changed or changing with this upon our minds and lips. I'll link more later.
 
There is a type of pest that shepherds are very aware of as it can result in the death of their lambs and even adult sheep. Here's a picture, but it's a nasty little creature, be warned.



It's called a "face fly". Click on the picture to learn more about it. The face fly develops in single fresh droppings. Adult face flies cluster around the eyes and noses of animals. So what is a poor shepherd boy to do? Simple treatment for this. Daily anointing of the face of the sheep. Oil works. Yes. Olive oil. That same kind that the 5 foolish virgins didn't have with them for their lamps. The same kind that is used and spoken of in the Psalms. That oil.

Daily face anointing helps prevent infestation. The bottom line is that we are commanded to behold how good it is for brothers to dwell together in unity. Where will the blessing be bestowed? Where may we find life forever more?

Psalm 133. There are only 3 lines. Short enough to read it in many, many versions. Long enough to promise life forevermore.
 
Amen, Allen. Well said.

I pray this is true, because I would love to see God's power truly poured out on His people in this last days, but I fear the "Holy Spirit outpouring" in Uganda is more like the "Toronto Blessing" or the "Brownsville Outpouring" which proved to have been largely, if not totally, fraud and hype
TND, you are true to your beliefs and I also appreciate the sincere warning found in vocalyocal's message to you earlier but would like to leave you to that and speak about this.

I very much agree with the concern that men may use the works of God for cross-purposes. The way I see it is that we have a vital need for Teachers who are called of God and anointed to the purpose of teaching, not only about the Spiritual things but also about all things. There is a saying among Pentecostals that I've heard that describes your concern very well. "Wild fire." That is what can happen when Spirit without guidance (or law, or principles of the Bible or whatever we want to call it) comes along. But if the need to learn the truth of the Bible is there, so also is it needful for God-fearing men, grounded in the Word, to teach by example of their lives how to rightly walk even after the outpouring of the Holy Spirit. This is exactly what Paul did, and the order in which it was done. God's call, man's response, Salvation, heaven rejoicing, God's anointing, mistakes (errors in man's judgment - consider the Corinthians) correction by the Holy Spirit, and continued uplifting of Jesus.

The body of Christ (in part) is still in the valley of dry bones. Jesus is the Prophet who spoke and fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah 61:1: The Spirit of the Sovereign LORD is on me, because the LORD has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim freedom for the captives and release from darkness for the prisoners. What shall we do when we see those bones stand but the ligaments are not yet formed? Prophecy. Speak the word of God, for out of our bellies shall flow rivers of living water. But is it just Uganda that may be called a wilderness?

Take a look around you, man! Is the internet itself a place that you would describe as a land flowing with milk and honey? Can cattle graze here or will the various lower and more treacherous lifeforms consume what good there is before milk may flow? Is there any place where a mother may nurse her Christian child, born of faith, undisturbed here in our wild lands on the internet? Or are there wild and untamed beasts here? Are the plants and the land itself dry and parched? Is this the cultivated land of God, where brothers may dwell in peace? No, we don't have to go to Uganda to find wilderness.

What do we need to do then? How do we become empowered to speak and act according to the will of the Father. It's simple. Pray according to His will. We know that Jesus died for sinners, so we can take John's advice and ask (I'm not saying that we should ask when we see our brother or sister sinning in a manner that leads to death, there is sin that leads to death) but we are to ask and Life shall be given. This is the act that every cell in the body may do, they may assist each neighbor in the process of life and pray according to the will of God, confident that their prayers, their every prayer is heard and answered.

Okay, G'morning to you. I'm off to schoolwork and a busy day now. Will complete my little Moderator routine and withdraw but do know that I need your prayerful support especially if you see me sin by speaking in a manner that offends (even slightly).

Sparrowhawke
 
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