cannabis-linked-to-psychotic-illness

[MrVersatile48]

Cannabis Linked To Psychotic Illness

By Sky News SkyNews - Friday, July 27 05:42 amSmoking cannabis on a regular basis can more than double the chance of suffering a psychotic illness such as schizophrenia, a study has revealed.

Any use of cannabis, which means even taking the drug just once, was associated with a 41% greater risk.

The findings emerge from the most comprehensive analysis yet carried out of the evidence linking cannabis use and psychosis...


http://uk.news.yahoo.com/skynews/200707 ... dbed5.html

See http://www.bbc.co.uk

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6917003.stm - 11 related articles liked there, inc FAQ:-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4583648.stm

& opinion poll:-

Should cannabis be reclassified?

The prime minister has said that cannabis could be reclassified as a Class B drug, while a string of Cabinet ministers have owned up to smoking the drug.

It was downgraded to Class C in 2004, making possession a largely non-arrestable offence. However, the wider availability of more potent strains has prompted a re-think.

Home Secretary Jacqui Smith, has admitted smoking the drug "just a few times" while at university. Ms Smith said that her admission did not make her unfit to do her job. This prompted other cabinet members to comment on the issue.

Chancellor Alistair Darling and Transport Secretary Ruth Kelly were among those to also admit using the drug when they were younger.

Prime Minister Gordon Brown said he had never used it.

Should cannabis laws be changed? How harmful is the drug? Was Ms Smith right to say she used cannabis? Does it affect her position as home secretary?


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Ian

 

[destiny]

This explains whats wrong with some of us. :-D (just kidding) ....hopefully :o

 

[Vic C.]

I think riding on trains and other forms of mass transit, being forced to listen to people's one-sided conversation on their cell phones :robot: can do more damage than smoking weed. I know some psychotic people who might actually benefit from smoking cannabis . :wink:

 

[destiny]

I think riding on trains and other forms of mass transit, being forced to listen to people's one-sided conversation on their cell phones :robot: can do more damage than smoking weed. I know some psychotic people who might actually benefit from smoking cannabis . :wink:

LOL! You're probably right, Vic

 

[Guest]

While I do have my own opinion on the matter, which I will explain later:

Have you ever wondered why God created cannabis?

If in the Garden, God created everything that was and is to be - then cannabis was present. On the sixth day God said that everything was "Good". Therefore, cannabis was "good" and served a "good purpose".

 

[destiny]

Concerning alcohol (as an example): "Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities" (1 Tim 5:23)

It is man who has abused this intent, the same with cannabis since they've now discovered some of it's medical purposes.

 

[MrVersatile48]

See also

more-teens-pre-loaded-on-cheap-booze-

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=29423

See also last verse of Revelation 9

The Greek translated as sorcery/witchcraft is pharmakeia - which reminds us how many occult practices - all forbidden in Deuteronomy 18:9-13 - use drug abuse

See also

Harry Potter?

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=8483


& Harry Potter: The Order of the Phoenix

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=29138

&

Wicca: 'a demonic cult of rebellion' says leading author

viewtopic.php?t=23738

God bless!

Ian

 

[Atonement]

aLoneVoice, allow me to respond to your post here. Marijuana is classified under a weed, because the root system. All weeds strangle out other surrounding plant life, thus farmers pull the weeds from their crops, and gardeners pull weeds from their gardens. The root system of marijuana is the same as a wild weed. This weed also blooms (flowers) just like many others weeds. i.e. The Jewel-weed, Borage, and the aster families. Which is where we get "bud."
My point is that it was not until after the curse that weeds and thorns were placed on the earth. Now I do believe that many women used marijuana during child birth (though it can not be proven) that's just Keith's theory and along with other illnesses. So with the classification of marijuana I highly doubt that marijuana was in the garden at the time of Adam and Eve.

 

[Guest]

aLoneVoice, allow me to respond to your post here. Marijuana is classified under a weed, because the root system. All weeds strangle out other surrounding plant life, thus farmers pull the weeds from their crops, and gardeners pull weeds from their gardens. The root system of marijuana is the same as a wild weed. This weed also blooms (flowers) just like many others weeds. i.e. The Jewel-weed, Borage, and the aster families. Which is where we get "bud."
My point is that it was not until after the curse that weeds and thorns were placed on the earth. Now I do believe that many women used marijuana during child birth (though it can not be proven) that's just Keith's theory and along with other illnesses. So with the classification of marijuana I highly doubt that marijuana was in the garden at the time of Adam and Eve.

Hmm... that is an interesting thought - the more that I learn about gardening, the more I have actually come to appreciate "weeds". In a garden - they actually can have their place. Weeds can tell a lot about the soil - too acidic, too much nitrogen, etc etc.

So - here is my question - are weeds a product of the 'curse'?

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[Atonement]

aLoneVoice, allow me to respond to your post here. Marijuana is classified under a weed, because the root system. All weeds strangle out other surrounding plant life, thus farmers pull the weeds from their crops, and gardeners pull weeds from their gardens. The root system of marijuana is the same as a wild weed. This weed also blooms (flowers) just like many others weeds. i.e. The Jewel-weed, Borage, and the aster families. Which is where we get "bud."
My point is that it was not until after the curse that weeds and thorns were placed on the earth. Now I do believe that many women used marijuana during child birth (though it can not be proven) that's just Keith's theory and along with other illnesses. So with the classification of marijuana I highly doubt that marijuana was in the garden at the time of Adam and Eve.

Hmm... that is an interesting thought - the more that I learn about gardening, the more I have actually come to appreciate "weeds". In a garden - they actually can have their place. Weeds can tell a lot about the soil - too acidic, too much nitrogen, etc etc.

So - here is my question - are weeds a product of the 'curse'?

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That a very good question. Let's see what the Bible says here..

Gen 3:18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field

My question is what is are thistles? Well let's turn to the dictonary:

1) any of various prickly composite plants (especially genera Carduus, Cirsium, and Onopordum) with often showy heads of mostly tubular flowers ; also : any of various other prickly plants

Most weeds have pricklies on them and most weeds bloom before they dry and die. I do believe that weeds were apart of the curse. Yes! And I do believe that marijuana was apart of the curse as well. But that God created this plant for the healing of pain and illness, and not to get stoned from, which is what 99.99% (Keith's Poll) of the population uses it for.

 

[Guest]

Keith - Ahhh... here is where I was wanting to go. Is the plant itself a part of the curse, or because of sin we (humans) have misused the plant?

As a result of our misuse over the centuries - now it is difficult to actually use it for the possible intention that it had - medicinal.

 

[Veritas]

While I do have my own opinion on the matter, which I will explain later:

Have you ever wondered why God created cannabis?

If in the Garden, God created everything that was and is to be - then cannabis was present. On the sixth day God said that everything was "Good". Therefore, cannabis was "good" and served a "good purpose".

Why did God create poison hemlock?

Not everything is meant for ingesting.

If cannabis was "good" and served a "good purpose" it would have been "good" in the same way as poison hemleck - It's green and pleasant to look at.

I can attest that using cannabis as a drug ruins lives.

 

[Atonement]

Keith - Ahhh... here is where I was wanting to go. Is the plant itself a part of the curse, or because of sin we (humans) have misused the plant?

As a result of our misuse over the centuries - now it is difficult to actually use it for the possible intention that it had - medicinal.

Again, marijuana is classified as a weed, so it was created after the curse (I believe), there was no pain in paradise, and there was no need for it. God walked among Adam and Eve in the coolness of the day. And because of the curse and because of our sinful nature we take everything to the extreme for self pleasure, as we do with sex, food, drugs, foolish spending of money etc

Veritas

As one who used marijuana for years, smoked it, sold it and grew it, I can also say that it ruins one's activness (becoming lazy), your family and most important your walk with God when it becomes your god.

 

[Guest]

Again, marijuana is classified as a weed, so it was created after the curse (I believe), there was no pain in paradise, and there was no need for it. God walked among Adam and Eve in the coolness of the day. And because of the curse and because of our sinful nature we take everything to the extreme for self pleasure, as we do with sex, food, drugs, foolish spending of money etc.

Let me make one point clear for yourself and the rest of the readers - I am not advocating for the use of marijuana. Just want to make that clear.

Hmm.. was it "created" after words - that is to say that it never existed prior to the curse or...
because of the curse - some prior existing plant became 'cursed'/deformed into a weed?

For example, a serpent prior to the curse must have had legs of some type.

 

[Atonement]

Who really knows the answer to that aLoneVoice? Marijuana could have been a scarlet rose bush before the fall. . . I really can't say

 

[Guest]

Who really knows the answer to that aLoneVoice? Marijuana could have been a scarlet rose bush before the fall. . . I really can't say

I guess I was "asking out loud" (so to speak) - it the marijuana plant existed in a different form prior to the curse - or if it was a 'new' (never existed before in any form) after the curse.

I suppose the question now is: if it truly were to have medicinal uses:

1) how do you prove/verify it?

2) does that make it appropriate to use for a specific medicinal use?

 

[Atonement]

aLoveVoice, I believe it's what's in man's heart. God knows our hearts and knows our intentions. If we (people) use marijuana to get "stoned" then God knows why we are using it, but if one was to use it for pain, illness, etc I believe that God will see that through the person's heart. Only God can judge those people. Some people might actually need marijuana, and I'm not to judge that person. But to many people I have met want to get an oz. and smoke it over the weekend, getting their friends high. We must allow God to judge those people. I think it's okay for medical reasons, but I can not judge a persons use.

 

[Vic C.]

Who really knows the answer to that aLoneVoice? Marijuana could have been a scarlet rose bush before the fall. . . I really can't say

I guess I was "asking out loud" (so to speak) - it the marijuana plant existed in a different form prior to the curse - or if it was a 'new' (never existed before in any form) after the curse.

I suppose the question now is: if it truly were to have medicinal uses:

1) how do you prove/verify it?

2) does that make it appropriate to use for a specific medicinal use?

Oh, it's uses go beyond medical and recreation drug usage. It has a big place in the diet and nutrition field. It's only rival so far is soy. Both plants can be used in a similar way; oil, "milk" flour, oil... actually, hemp oil is known to be high in omega3 fatty acids.

We have used and misused it and glossed over it's benefits.

 

[Sic Em Bears]

As a cancer survivor who has suffered through 3.5 years of constant recovery from chemo, I can attest to the fact that weed has medicinal uses. All of the standard treatment appetite producing pharms cannot even touch the effects of THC in that department.

Turns out the "munchies" that are listed as a side effect aren't just an urban legend.

Also, as a chemist with background in pharmacology, I can read that article and take it with a grain of salt. Unless the researchers interviewed everyone in history that has been a heavy user of THC and no other hallucinogenic drug whatsoever, the results are almost paradoxical. Marijuana is such a widely abused drug and Paranoid/schizo disorder is so rare in the general population, it could be that the results are also skewed that way as well. The study was basically performed without certain experimental controls, and therefore can be used as 'proof' for anyone with an anti-marijuana agenda.